How "off" is the factory tachometer?
How "off" is the factory tachometer?
On a dynojet, my friends GTA was showing 5500 rpms.. In all reality, the dyno-tuner said it was really at 4500 RPMs. My question is how "off" are the stock tachs really? If you install an MSD shift light to come on at 5k, is it really coming on at 5k??
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91 Formula 1LE 1 of 46
305 TPI 5speed
1LE/G92/WS6
Paxton SN92 supercharger(SN93 upgrade), Ford SVO 24#injectors, Crane AFPR,SLP airfoil, ported/polished plenum, March alt. pulley,Crane Gold 1.6rrs,MSD coil,MSD6AL (5200rpm limit),Holley 9mm wires,Ac delco R43ts plugs,custom chip,Bosch O2sensor,SLP 1 5/8" headers,SLP catback,shortened shifter,3:73s w/Auburn posi,170* t-stat,JET 195* fan switch, Macewen white face gauges, Autometer gauges, Zoom hi-performance clutch.
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Car: 86' Z28
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compared to my Autometer tach with shift light, my tach is about 200 rpms fast. So i would imagine that there not too far off- definately not 1000 rpms off. Sounds like something was wrong somewhere.
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I recently got another 140 MPH IROC instrument cluster; when I put it in my car, I was idling at 1200 RPM instead of 800, cruising at 2800 at 40 in 4th instead of 1900, etc. So they can be hugely inaccurate.
When I swapped my original circuit board for the other one, readings returned to normal.
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When I swapped my original circuit board for the other one, readings returned to normal.
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My 84 tach's dead nuts accurate according to the MSD rev limiter. I've checked it at 3000, 5800, and 6000.
Now, if I only I could say the same for the POS tach in my LS1....
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Now, if I only I could say the same for the POS tach in my LS1....
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"Beware he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart, he dreams himself your master"
'84 Black Camaro ZZ4 M5 (V-6 in a former life) -- street beast
'91 Medium Blue Metallic Z28 A4 (UB-HSTRY's old ride) -- currently broken
'99 Navy Blue Metallic Firehawk #120 M6 (99.44% stock) -- daily driver
Mine is slow by about 200. Thats why I installed an autometer!
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'87 IROC, 355 TPI, Converted to SD, 700R4, B&M Megashifter, 3.42, Trick Flow Twisted Wedge Heads, Edelbrock Intake, Accel Runners, Comp Cam, Crane Gold rockers, Lucas 23# injectors, Edelbrock headers, Flowmaster 3'' exhaust, Mallory Ignition, Transgo Performance Shift Kit, Corvette Servo, 2,000 Stall Torque Converter
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Car: 89RSconvtZZ4TPI
Engine: ZZ4TPI
Transmission: 700R4 TRIPP TRANNY
My ZZ4TPI is off about 200 rpm according to my Autoxray scanner. Its 200 rpm higher so its like a built in 200rpm rev limiter, if I'm paying attention to the tach!
. But my MSD is set at 6000 and I've bumped it once.
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. But my MSD is set at 6000 and I've bumped it once.------------------
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Factory instruments (except the voltmeter) might as well not even have graduations, just green and yellow bars to indicate safe and unsafe ranges. About 10% variation in indication from actual is very common.
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From: Orange, SoCal
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Engine: 355 TPI siamesed runners
Transmission: Tremec T56
Axle/Gears: 12-Bolt 3.73
When I'm at 6000 RPMs according to my tach, my Diacom and the dyno said I was at 5400 RPMs.
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Vader's right (as usual) about the calibration of factory gauges. I know someone who works for a gauge manufacturer. He told me that GM, F@rd, etc pay about $3-5 for a tach! You get what you pay for!
RB, i think you put a V6 tach in (will read 1/3 higher +/- normal inaccuracy)
RB, i think you put a V6 tach in (will read 1/3 higher +/- normal inaccuracy)
I've been told about 200 rpm's. When I had an AutoMeter Monster Tach in my 92, it was only off by 50...maybe 100 rpms at the most-guess it all depends
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160 thermo.
K&N Air Filters
B&M Ripper
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My tach is quite accurate, within 50 rpm of my Diacom readings. And my speedo is bang on. My temperature guage is another thing and as for my fuel guage, it may as well say "Got gas and got no gas".
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I thought about that too Merf, you're right that exchanging them that way would produce that error; however this tach was out of a 87 IROC, in the cluster with the 145 MPH speedo; the part # on the little circuit board was the same as the one in my original 83 tach, except it was rev. C instead of rev. B or something like that. The PC board itself was the thing that made it read 50% high.
I wonder how the guy I got it from was able to put up with that for however long it was doing that...
In any case, it is a good example of how far off they can be sometimes. The factory seems to regard such things as "trim: items, not instruments; so as long as it looks cute and moves up and down when the engine changes speed, I think they think they've done their job.
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I wonder how the guy I got it from was able to put up with that for however long it was doing that...
In any case, it is a good example of how far off they can be sometimes. The factory seems to regard such things as "trim: items, not instruments; so as long as it looks cute and moves up and down when the engine changes speed, I think they think they've done their job.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">He told me that GM, F@rd, etc pay about $3-5 for a tach! You get what you pay for! </font>
[This message has been edited by 84TransAm (edited May 04, 2001).]
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