I still need help installing my new gauge cluster!
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From: Rowlett, TX
Car: 1988 GTA
Engine: 5.0 TPI
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: 9 Bolt, 3.45
I still need help installing my new gauge cluster!
Okay, I traced all of the 'pins' on the back of my new cluster from an 87 GTA, and then I traced them all on my spare 83 cluster, and not one is the same. cluster will bolt right in, but nothing will finction correctly. Is it possible to replace the gauge cluster wiring harness? I don't really want to re-wire my harness, but I will if I have to. Someone has to have had their dash apart before...
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1983 Firebird
TH700R4 Auto
Small Block 400
LG4 ECM, Intake, Carb, Distributor, etc.
Soon to be non-computer.
Clarion Head Unit 45X4
2 Pioneer 400W 12" Subs
Third Gen Performance
"A four cylinder is half an engine."
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1983 Firebird
TH700R4 Auto
Small Block 400
LG4 ECM, Intake, Carb, Distributor, etc.
Soon to be non-computer.
Clarion Head Unit 45X4
2 Pioneer 400W 12" Subs
Third Gen Performance
"A four cylinder is half an engine."
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Ward - this is very interesting.
I have an '84. I swapped for an '85 cluster, changed two sensors and everything is fine.
From the cars/clusters I looked at, sometime in the very late 80's / early 90's, a change to the instrument layout was made - that is why I elected to stay with a cluster that was as close to my model year as possible. The printed circuitry on an '83 verses an '87 may very well be different.
Does the circuit board layout look the same on both clusters? If, not, someone with extensive experience in clusters is going to have to help you.
I think the physical gauge lay out (3 small between two large) is the same for '83 / '87 - right? Seems like it should work. Does NOTHING work? The tach? Fuel gauge?
I am not much help - hopefully, someone else will chime in here.
Boomer
I have an '84. I swapped for an '85 cluster, changed two sensors and everything is fine.
From the cars/clusters I looked at, sometime in the very late 80's / early 90's, a change to the instrument layout was made - that is why I elected to stay with a cluster that was as close to my model year as possible. The printed circuitry on an '83 verses an '87 may very well be different.
Does the circuit board layout look the same on both clusters? If, not, someone with extensive experience in clusters is going to have to help you.
I think the physical gauge lay out (3 small between two large) is the same for '83 / '87 - right? Seems like it should work. Does NOTHING work? The tach? Fuel gauge?
I am not much help - hopefully, someone else will chime in here.
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Car: 1989 Firebird Formula
Engine: Internal Combustion
Transmission: Completed
Axle/Gears: ones that turn.
Ward is talking about a Firebird dash, not a Camaro one....they're a bit different.
I could help if I had a Haynes Firebird manual with the electrical diagrams, but unfortunately, my Chilton's doesn't have detailed enough diagrams.
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I could help if I had a Haynes Firebird manual with the electrical diagrams, but unfortunately, my Chilton's doesn't have detailed enough diagrams.
Pete
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From: Rowlett, TX
Car: 1988 GTA
Engine: 5.0 TPI
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: 9 Bolt, 3.45
I need to know if i can take the cluster wiring harness from a firebird with an electronic speedo. in 87 (i think, maybe 86) they were changed to electronic, and they changed the whole interior and gauge cluster, including the wiring for it.
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1983 Firebird
TH700R4 Auto
Small Block 400
LG4 ECM, Intake, Carb, Distributor, etc.
Soon to be non-computer.
Clarion Head Unit 45X4
2 Pioneer 400W 12" Subs
Third Gen Performance
"A four cylinder is half an engine."
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1983 Firebird
TH700R4 Auto
Small Block 400
LG4 ECM, Intake, Carb, Distributor, etc.
Soon to be non-computer.
Clarion Head Unit 45X4
2 Pioneer 400W 12" Subs
Third Gen Performance
"A four cylinder is half an engine."
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