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Old Oct 2, 2004 | 10:40 PM
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Hurracane jenne tore the roof of my pops warehouse and we broguht home lots of stuf like our 1969 z-28 and a bunch of parts! i have a question i have stage one ported 882 castings on my car and i was wodnering if i get these 354434 castings rebuilt hot tanked and ported will they even be wroth it? my pop said they where fuelies but only the 1.94 versions (well thats what the guy he boguht them form said).so any ideas any help would be thanked btw ehres a picture of the camaro
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Old Oct 2, 2004 | 11:07 PM
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I have the exact same heads on my camaro. Mine have had some pretty extensive work, and they work pretty good. Are they as good as an aftermarket head, no. I only have 400 bucks in them, and they work pretty good. Of course now its time for someone to step in and call them "70's Junk Smogger Heads" and tell you that you cant make more than 200hp with them. Unless you know someone it will not be worth it money wise to get them into shape. I got screw in studs, stainless one piece 2.02 1.60 valves, good springs, all the goodies and machine work for 400. If it was any more, I wouldnt have done it.
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Old Oct 2, 2004 | 11:14 PM
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I have the exact same heads on my camaro. Mine have had some pretty extensive work, and they work pretty good. Are they as good as an aftermarket head, no. I only have 400 bucks in them, and they work pretty good. Of course now its time for someone to step in and call them "70's Junk Smogger Heads" and tell you that you cant make more than 200hp with them. Unless you know someone it will not be worth it money wise to get them into shape. I got screw in studs, stainless one piece 2.02 1.60 valves, good springs, all the goodies and machine work for 400. If it was any more, I wouldnt have done it.
how much hp are you pushing with thta combo and with extensive porting and all the goddies do you think i will be better of than the smae treatment with the 882s?
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Old Oct 2, 2004 | 11:16 PM
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I havent been to the dyno, so I dont like to speculate and be called a liar. I do know that it pulls hard all the way to 6800. I also know that I can break em loose at 45 in 2nd gear (th350). And getting rubber in every gear is hard not to do. They are MUCH better than 882s. Just dont invest too much money in them.
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Old Oct 2, 2004 | 11:21 PM
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Theres a local racing board with a guy who owns a machine shop and i could get a good deal but at a tipical shop what do you think it would cost to get: Hot tanked and all cleaned up ported very good like a stage 2 port valvejob screwin studs the works?
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Old Oct 3, 2004 | 12:34 AM
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Originally posted by Teal91rs
Theres a local racing board with a guy who owns a machine shop and i could get a good deal but at a tipical shop what do you think it would cost to get: Hot tanked and all cleaned up ported very good like a stage 2 port valvejob screwin studs the works?
Best way to find out is to call around and ask. Shop rates are different in different places. And don't forget, you get what you pay for.
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Old Oct 3, 2004 | 11:17 AM
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Honestly, it would probably cost more than a comperably setup set of cheap aftermarket heads. The expensive part is a port job. Search for a user named SittingBull, and read his article on head porting. If you do this yourself, you can save about 50% of the money. As far as the rest, it will all vary from machine shop to machine shop.
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Old Oct 3, 2004 | 07:03 PM
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Yes, if you can do it yourself, do it. Theres nothing particularly difficult about it AFAIK, but its just very time consuming.

Save the money and get decent aftermarket heads. If you pay someone to do all of this for you, it will probably be a 4 figure price, or at least close to that for a good job. You could easily spend that on much better aftermarket heads and do the work yourself and be bucks and HP ahead.
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Old Oct 3, 2004 | 09:49 PM
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How will a 700 dollar pair of heads be cheeper?i mean really these are good the 60cc combustion chamber will get me into the 9:1 compersion ratio range and they will flow better than these 882 ****tersand i can get the works for under 500 bucks these heads are sounding better to me
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Old Oct 3, 2004 | 09:54 PM
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The thing is, to get the machine work done, and buy the new valves, etc. you will spend a good amount of change. Also, they will not be 60cc when you are done. Mine with 2.02 1.60 valves and the deshrouding required with them I ended up with 65cc. I still only paid 400 bucks for the bolt on pair though, so the price was right with me. If you are going to pay any more than 600 bucks, for bolt on completeness, its not worth it.
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Old Oct 3, 2004 | 10:20 PM
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ok still 65cc's is much better than 76ccs!i think the 500 is money well spend considering i dont 1000 bucks for some sportsmans or a pair of edelbrocks
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Old Oct 3, 2004 | 10:27 PM
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You dont have to convince me, I run the same heads on mine.
Like I said, as long as you arent expecting the performance of edelbrocks, you will be happy. That is top on my list of performance mods though. First comes new gears, then new heads.
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Old Oct 3, 2004 | 10:35 PM
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Really man im just sick of people telling me that stock heads have no potential. these heads will shurly flow enuf for some power and it beats the hell outa 882's
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Old Oct 3, 2004 | 10:46 PM
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Yes they will. But of course you will be told by some that they are "junk 70s smogger heads" and they are crap, yadda yadda. Its BS. They do work.
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Old Oct 4, 2004 | 12:33 AM
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Are you guys talking about the 882's or the 434's? Or are the 434's just as bad as the 882's, stock for stock?

Could always do as I'm doing and go with some LT1 aluminum heads and an LT1 intake Can't beat $250 shipped for heads, intake, and injectors, and probably another $100 in head prep work (welding and milling). Aluminum and 54cc chambers

Then again its going to be quite a bit of work, but nothing too extensive. Will be close to what you're willing to spend on those heads of yours..
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Old Oct 4, 2004 | 10:57 AM
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Since he already has the heads, this would be more cost effective. I have worked with 882's, there really isnt a lot that can be done to make them decent, at least not for under 500 bucks. However, the 434's arent as bad. First they have a smaller chamber. There is also some room for "real" porting on the 434's, something the 882's just dont really have. Stock, they are probably a little better, maybe. They just have more potential than 882's. However, they wont perform as good as an aftermarket, with comperable work.
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