ok here is the story. i have a viper alarm and when you arm the alarm my parking light usually flash. but then one day i replaced a bulb in the taillights and the same day the taillight fuse blew. i fixed both and now my alarm still works but the parking lights don't flash when i arm it. it only makes the beep sound to know if is armed it doesn't flash anymore. so does anyone know where i can look to fix this problem? where would the wires be that would make them flash? where is the brain for the alarm?
any help is appericated
thanx

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anyone????

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86 Z28:
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2 12"kicker solos
300 watt Sony xplod amp
Sony xplod deck
K&N air filter

 

It may not be the alarm computer.

First, check to make sure that your alarm is optioned/setup to flash your lights....some alarms are programmable.

Second, check the wiring from the alarm unit to the relay controlling the flash. Then check the wiring between the relay and where it connects to the light circuit....probably at the fuse.

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first my lights used to flash. is it possible it lost is memory and lost the code? where would i find the realy? by the alarm box? where would the alarm box be under the dash? and would there be a fuse for my lights or something?
not to sound stupid but i don't know much about alarms that is my week point.
thanx

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86 Z28:
350 vette
aluminum heads
T-5
235/60R15 BFgoodriches
dual 3"flowmaster exhaust
20% tint
hatch wing
2 12"kicker solos
300 watt Sony xplod amp
Sony xplod deck
K&N air filter

 

When you changed your tail light did you see any splices in the wiring back there? It's possible someone connected the wire from the alarm that flashes the lights back there and you accidently knocked it loose.

I'd say there's a 99% chance the alarm brain is under the dash somewhere. Although Viper is a very good alarm so I doubt your problem is in there. My guess its in the wiring somewhere. An easy test would be to find where the wire for the lights comes out of the brain and put a test light on it. The light should flash when you arm/disarm the alarm. If you want I may be able to e-mail you an old wiring diagram for a Viper. I think I still have one.

 

You'll have to dig for the alarm. I hear most shops stick it above the ... er, well, in a very obvious location from below. I had an alarm almost "fall on me" once.

Look for a bunch of wires. The easiest way might be to trace the LED. The Viper LED should have a blue/white striped wire and a red wire coming off it, of a very thin gauge. The thin blue/white splices into a thicker blue wire, and the thicker blue goes into the alarm box. Look for that under the dash.

I'd tend to think the fuse blew again... don't know why, though. I've replaced a few tailights with my Viper installed, and haven't had a problem. Oh- wait- you replaced the "actual" GM taillight fuse?

The Vipers fuse the wire that pulses the parking light circuit. Hm... I -think- the fuse is a 7.5 amp, and colored brown. Viper makes their own fuse holders, they're simple- two white female quick-disconnects. Each one slides onto a blade of the fuse. On my Viper, the parking-light-flash wire is yellow. I ran mine up to the dimmer switch, depending on who installed your alarm, it could be in an easier-to-get-to spot.

Hope that helps... there's other wires to look for, but I could go on all day about 'em. And since I don't know where your guy spliced in, they could be in completely different spots.


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ok guys thanx for the help!!!
Mikes86SC: i had a short in the taillight wireing and i fixed that that was making my taillight fuse blow. also u know the little stopper pins that go downs when the doors close and if the alarm is armed and they pop up it makes the alarm go off? well the one like that in my hatch i had to take it off anyway i was a little to rough and the sodding came off so that no longer works. could that have anything to do with it? no making my parking lights flash that is all i did to the back of the car.
TomP: where is the fuse on the alarm it self would it be next to the alarm box? also where do u get a 7.5 amp fuse. everything in my car works fine except flashing the parking lights. my parking lights work and so do my foglights when i drive at night. they just don't work when i arm the alarm.
any more suggetsions?
thanx



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86 Z28:
350 vette
aluminum heads
T-5
235/60R15 BFgoodriches
dual 3"flowmaster exhaust
20% tint
hatch wing
2 12"kicker solos
300 watt Sony xplod amp
Sony xplod deck
K&N air filter

 

mikes86sc could you email me the viper diagram.
thanx

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86 Z28:
350 vette
aluminum heads
T-5
235/60R15 BFgoodriches
dual 3"flowmaster exhaust
20% tint
hatch wing
2 12"kicker solos
300 watt Sony xplod amp
Sony xplod deck
K&N air filter

 

Sure Ill try to find it tonite.

 

If the light circuit had a short and you did something such that the alarm tried to flash it anyway, the driver circuit in the alarm box itself may have gotten zorched. If you're lucky there's a fuse somewhere to protect it but alot of the alarms I've seen don't have any circuit protection at all. Don't know if the Viper does or not.

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The hood/hatch pin switch you're talking about just sends a ground to the alarm. When the hatch's down, the pin's isolated from anything. When the hatch is up, the pin comes up, and makes contact with ground, so it's not like you could've shorted anything out.

Did you tape the wire from the pin switch up? Maybe it's grounding all the time, and the Viper senses something's wrong, and isn't flashing the lights... but I don't think so. See if you can find the Viper's parking light fuse first...


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yea i taped up the pin wire im gonna look for that fuse i think that might be the only thing it can be. also i called the shop where it got done and they said it could be something with the programming and that the memory got lost or something and it might need to be reprogramed again.
ill check the fuse thanx.


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86 Z28:
350 vette
aluminum heads
T-5
235/60R15 BFgoodriches
dual 3"flowmaster exhaust
20% tint
hatch wing
2 12"kicker solos
300 watt Sony xplod amp
Sony xplod deck
K&N air filter

 

What model viper is it?
I have an install guide for one series of them, older ones. My viper box is above my fuse block "hidden" yeah right. If your shop did a job like the one in my car, elec tape and twisted wires, you should shoot them. The viper will arm even if some zones are open, like door pins, and if they keep triggering it will ignore them till you come back and disarm/arm it again. Also if you go to dei's website you should still be able to get your users manual if you don't have it. It tells about the door pins, zones, etc....

Oh yeah the two fused wires in my car are red/white and green/white pairs, coming from my viper box, fused with 7.5, you probably blew one of them.

PS
http://www.wasp.com/og/og.html
thats the owners guides, the install guides used to be there too but i guess they took them down. Wouldn't want people installing thier own alarms now would we lol.

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Auxout, my girlfriend's car has the Viper, installed by a previous owner. I e-mailed DEI the model #, and asked them how I could get copies of the manuals. They sent me both manuals, free of charge, thru regular mail... one more reason to love DEI's products- their customer support.


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ok guys i need some help. how do i get the fuse block out do i pull it down or what?
thanx

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86 Z28:
350 vette
aluminum heads
T-5
235/60R15 BFgoodriches
dual 3"flowmaster exhaust
20% tint
hatch wing
2 12"kicker solos
300 watt Sony xplod amp
Sony xplod deck
K&N air filter

 

can anyone help me out???

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86 Z28:
350 vette
aluminum heads
T-5
235/60R15 BFgoodriches
dual 3"flowmaster exhaust
20% tint
hatch wing
2 12"kicker solos
300 watt Sony xplod amp
Sony xplod deck
K&N air filter

 

no one know how to get the fuse block out??
i need some help!!

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86 Z28:
350 vette
aluminum heads
T-5
235/60R15 BFgoodriches
dual 3"flowmaster exhaust
20% tint
hatch wing
2 12"kicker solos
300 watt Sony xplod amp
Sony xplod deck
K&N air filter

 

no one know how to get the fuse block out??
i need some help!!

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86 Z28:
350 vette
aluminum heads
T-5
235/60R15 BFgoodriches
dual 3"flowmaster exhaust
20% tint
hatch wing
2 12"kicker solos
300 watt Sony xplod amp
Sony xplod deck
K&N air filter

 

The car's fuse block?

The fuse blocks' meant to swing downward to help the owner out. There are two tabs that you press in, one on each side, then you swing the box down. The metal bracket that allows the "swinging" is held to the underside of the dash by two 9/32" screws. If you remove the black hush panel above the driver's feet, check out the fuse box. The two 9/32" screws are screwed down to the same piece that the hush panel screws to.


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