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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 02:26 PM
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Car runs poor at lower RPM(new info w/pics)

I started discussing my problems here . But they seem to have changed a little so I'm starting a new thread. Just to recap: car is an '89 305/TBI/auto. Full tune-up performed, also new EGR.
I scrutinized the vaccum system and found a bad line on the back of the manifold, thought my problems were solved. I was wrong, but it is a little better.
On the test drive I decided to put the transmission in "1" and "2" so I could hold a gear and listen to the motor throughout the RPM range. The tach reads high so that was of no use. I made my observations based on MPH. FYI The car did not have a tach when I bought it, so I installed one from an older Z/28 crossfire injection car. I don't know if that has anything with it reading high or not, it may just be a POS.
So the car runs like I think it should above 30-35 mph in 2nd, and above ~15 mph if held in 1st. It's strong and responsive at any throttle setting, feels smooth and has a good clean exhaust note. In fact the higher the revs the better it seems to run.
It cruises at a steady throttle setting well, it also idles well. It may be possible for it to idle/cruise better, but I'm pretty satified with it. But when I push the throttle any amount between idle and whatever RPM 30-35 mph in 2nd is, there is a noticable bog and and the motor runs a little rough as it accelerates until it reaches a higher RPM
Could the IAC or MAP sensor be playing a role in this?
My only other thought is maybey the ECM is also seeing too high of an RPM and advancing the timing too much at low RPM's
Any thoughts?

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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 02:47 PM
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Car: 86-FireBird
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Axle/Gears: 3:42
Run the car in the dark with the hood up. Search around for a spark leak.

Mine did similar to that once. I had the motor just about all apart, changed n checked every sensor. Ended up the coil was leaking spark. Went through 3 coils but they kept leaking.
Then I did a full tune up and it fixed the problem. Even though the wires were newer and its wasn't time for a tune up. Once I did a full fresh tune up, I had my original coil back on and no spark leakage.
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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 02:52 PM
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Thanks, I'll give the coil a good looking over. The wires/plugs/cap/rotor are all brand new, so I'm pretty sure they can be ruled out.
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 12:44 PM
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Ya find anything out yet???
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 02:10 PM
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Had to wait for it to get dark last night, we're a little behind most of you Could not see any arcing. I'll have more time tonight so I'll read out all the ignition compnents I can. It's just frustrating because the car is so close to running perfect. If I don't find it soon I may have to take a step I never have...take it to a mechanic
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 01:56 PM
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I read out the distributor pick-up and it read good, but on closer inspection the whole assembly seemed to be severly corroded, and the wires were dry rotted and cracked, module was looking a little suspect as well. Long story short:
I found a good deal and replaced the entire distibutor for $20 more than just a pick up and module would have cost. Now the car run much snappier, starts quicker, and sounds much better. The only troubling thing is that there is a little more vibration. The distributor that I bought looked a little different than what came out. Here is what I installed


The one I removed had the pick-up enclosed in a copper ring. I couldn't see how that ring could be incorporated on the new dist. Is there anything missing from the new one? All I added to the assembly in the picture was the cap and rotor.
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 02:09 PM
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The manual didn't help at all, first step told me to remove three screws. Well there weren't any screws holding the original dist pick-up together. In fact it didn't seem servicable at all. However the re-man unit does have the screws.
When I installed the new dist I lined the pulley mark up with 0* TDC, the rotor up with #1 spark plug terminal. It fired first time and I was able to set the timing to 0*. I'm paranoid now because it went to easy. Considering that it fired right away and I was able to time it, is there any chance it could be 180* out, or off in some other way.
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 05:02 PM
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Due to change in question I started a new thread HERE
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