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Old May 8, 2005 | 09:25 PM
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problems with spark plug hitting piston.

so i go to turn the motor over to get it at tdc #1 and i pulled the spark out and the plug electoed is bent so i pull the rest out and there all bent ...now i have trw pop top pisons i think that there hitting the plug at tdc...i have never ran this motor what do i do? is there a plug that i can buy that will take up for this? pn# please

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Old May 8, 2005 | 09:52 PM
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what kind of pistons exactly (part number?)?? Also, what kind of heads and head gasket?? And finally, what kind (part number too) of spark plugs do you have right now?
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Old May 8, 2005 | 09:59 PM
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the pistons trw .1000 dome with a valve releif the head gaskit is the stock hight ...auto light5245
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Old May 8, 2005 | 10:03 PM
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cylinder heads are?????
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Old May 8, 2005 | 10:06 PM
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there 882 casting with 202 164 valves no that havent been milled
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Old May 8, 2005 | 10:23 PM
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If I'm not mistaken, those are the wrong plugs for those cylinder heads.. A 5245 has .709" reach, taper seat, and an extended electrode.. Those heads should take a .460" reach, taper seat, standard plug... I think that is your problem... the spark plug is probably threading way too far into the head before it seats, and the extended tip isn't helping you either...

Specs by SparkPlugs.com:

Autolite 5245 - .709" reach, tapered seat, extended tip
Autolite 26 - .460" reach, tapered seat
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Old May 8, 2005 | 10:25 PM
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dude your the man....thank you sooooooooooo much...wow sweet what kind of plugs sould i ask 4 when i go to the parts store..what heat range? a part number would be grate...


thanks chris

edit...sweet links..thats all i needed...damm THANK YOU....
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Old May 8, 2005 | 10:26 PM
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I'd either get a set of 25 autolites or R43TS ac delco...
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Old May 8, 2005 | 11:54 PM
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Get some r43ts , r44ts, or r45ts AC delcos. Only difference is the heat ranges. 45's being the hottest.

The plugs you are using are what my mothers 02 accord v6 takes IIRC. Way to long.
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Old May 9, 2005 | 12:11 AM
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I have had the best luck and performance with NGK v-power race plugs. if not running nitrus use the ur4--they are a raceplug one heat range hotter than stock--go to napa they have a ton of them on hand about 2 bucks a pice just my 2 cents
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Old May 9, 2005 | 12:40 AM
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The TS plugs should be extended tip. You might just want regular R43T plugs. Also index the plugs so the the ground is at the top of the cylinder away from the piston. I have to index my plugs or the ground gets hit by the piston.
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Old May 9, 2005 | 07:14 AM
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what kind of gap should i run whith the compresstion i have *thinking 10/1/2-1 .....and i have a msd 6al box...also what heat range..i sould get the 43? thanks for all the help
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Old May 9, 2005 | 07:27 AM
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Originally posted by Rick King
I have had the best luck and performance with NGK v-power race plugs. if not running nitrus use the ur4--they are a raceplug one heat range hotter than stock--go to napa they have a ton of them on hand about 2 bucks a pice just my 2 cents

so called "race plugs" are actually colder then stock

has to do ith most motors designed for racing have higher cylinder temps then some joe schmo driving around town going put put
the put put car is goign to have less cylinder temps so it's going to need a hotter plug to reach a self cleaning temp

a hotter plug like that in a racing motor is goign to cause issues of detonation, or electrode melting
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Old May 9, 2005 | 10:36 AM
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IIRC they recommend a .045'' gap with aftermarket ignitions and .035'' without a performance ignition.
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Old May 9, 2005 | 02:06 PM
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what does this IIRC stand for
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Old May 9, 2005 | 03:27 PM
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If I remember correctly, it stands for...... oh wait.

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Old May 9, 2005 | 03:27 PM
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If I Recall Correctly
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Old May 9, 2005 | 04:02 PM
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I thought you were supposed to index plugs so that the open face of the electrode was pointing towards the VALVES, not the piston.

Also, if your SBC was 10.5 compression and supposedly 400HP, would you use the Autolite 24 or 25? I think the 24 is slightly colder if I understand their numbering system....

Hopefully the A-24/25 are a little shorter than the AC 43TS/44TS that won't clear my headers.....
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