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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 10:02 PM
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Smoke Through Breather Element

I recently installed a K&N breather element into the driver side valve cover. However now it's blowing quite a bit of smoke through the breather element. Is there anything wrong. How would I fix this issue?
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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 10:41 PM
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Smoke or steam? Unless excessive or heavy continuously over long periods of time there is likely nothing wrong. It's normal and it's what that tube was designed to take into the TB. It's also probably going to net you a slew of clean up time.
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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 10:43 PM
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If there's a working PCV valve in the other valve cover, I wouldn't call it normal.
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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 10:44 PM
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:shrug: If it's on the s/c motor, I wouldn't call it extraordinary either.
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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 10:45 PM
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If the breather doesn't pop itself all the time it will be.
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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 12:00 AM
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The supercharger is currently off the motor. Has anyone experienced this issue. If so how did you remedy this smoking problem?
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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 02:05 AM
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Use a PCV valve.
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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 08:51 PM
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moroso sells a kit you use your exhaust to pull it out like your pcv system did. I think it is about 75 dollars but, I can't recall for sure
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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 10:59 PM
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moroso sells a kit you use your exhaust to pull it out like your pcv system did. I think it is about 75 dollars but, I can't recall for sure
Does anyone know the Moroso part number or have a picture of the kit?
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Old Aug 24, 2005 | 10:49 AM
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holy cow! i saw this in a magazine last night. all you need is a grommet / rubber tube leading back to like.. after your cat converter, and then weld a like.. hollow tube into the exhuast angled back to the tips a bit. plug your rubber pcv hole hose on there and whalla, the exhuats pulls the vacuum out of the case.


edit: ill take a pic of it in my magazine later.
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Old Aug 24, 2005 | 05:56 PM
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Isn't this called 'blow by'....
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Old Aug 24, 2005 | 05:59 PM
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Yes, and as long as it's not excessive it's normal.
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Old Aug 25, 2005 | 01:04 AM
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Could someone please post a picture or diagram.
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Old Aug 25, 2005 | 02:20 AM
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Why go through all that hassle with the exhaust when you can just plug a PCV valve in?
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Old Aug 25, 2005 | 09:16 AM
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as promised heres pics. seems like a cool setup, because if you have a open element you have to have a breather on your pcv which maeks a HUGE oily mess on your engine bay. so if you route it down to the exh. like this then your set. eh?







heres the rest of the article. its out of an OLD feb 93' car craft






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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 07:01 AM
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yes, no, maybe?
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 07:07 AM
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Originally posted by sp63
as promised heres pics. seems like a cool setup, because if you have a open element you have to have a breather on your pcv which maeks a HUGE oily mess on your engine bay. so if you route it down to the exh. like this then your set. eh?







heres the rest of the article. its out of an OLD feb 93' car craft






did you know that issue of car craft has one of the most elaborated covers of car magazines of all time?
that it was shot near the final shutdown of the van nuys plant in cali.? and,though it was not a very good sellin' issue,it is a rare issue nowadays?
it too about 14 hours to take that picture!
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 07:31 PM
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yea ive often looked at it and thought damn they ahd to tak this car to a PLANT somewhere and set it up.

yea i paid a knickle for that mag and about 40 other car crafts at an uh.. salvation army store a few months ago.

they may be old, but they are cool to read for the tech articles and such.
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 07:43 PM
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I'm still unsure how to remedy this blowby issue. Any suggestions?
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 08:06 PM
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If it's normal crankcase gasses, use a working PCV system. If it's abnormal, rebuild.
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 08:25 PM
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i have a question; when you use a breather do you just cap the opening at the TB?
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Old Oct 23, 2005 | 07:15 AM
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I see you have the same issue as I do. Do a compression check and see you if you have low compression. If the compression seems a little low, put a small amount of oil into the cylinder and recheck the compression. If the compression comes up you can feel pretty sure that you have bad rings or cracked the ring landings on the pistons.
The stock ring gap is set for a naturally aspired motor. When you start running forced induction, the ring gap must be increased to handle more ring expansion due to higher cylinder temps. When you increase cylinder pressure and temp the piston rings will expand, if no room for expansion is there, once the ring gap is 0 and the rings are still expanding, either the ring will crack or the landing on the piston will crack. As stated before, if this is the cause for your blow by a rebuild is the proper repair.
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