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How far does the knock sensor need to be screwed into the block??

Old Nov 13, 2001 | 11:02 AM
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How far does the knock sensor need to be screwed into the block??

I just put my new engine in my TA and I went to put the new knock sensor in and I can't get it to screw into the block all the way. I'd say it might be half way in. It's tight and I don't have the proper size wrench as it is anyhow. It's not a 3/4 and not a 7/8 so I'm guessing it's metric... unless it's a 13/16. Do you think this will be ok?? Will the knock sensor work properly this way or should I find a way to screw it into the block farther? Thanks in advance.

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Old Nov 13, 2001 | 11:53 AM
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It only needs to go in until it stops leaking. The threads are tapered pipe thread, since after all it replaces the pipe plug that drains the water jacket; it's not a straight thread like a bolt or something, so don't expect it to necessarily go all the way in. I'd guess something around 15-20 ft-lbs is entirely enough. Use about 4 wraps of Teflon tape, and whatever you do, don't overtighten it. That will make it overly sensitive.

IIRC 13/16" is the correct size. I usually use a 6-point socket to make sure I don't strip its hex.

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Old Nov 13, 2001 | 12:18 PM
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Won't the teflon sealant effect the sensor's ability to detect knock frequency? I don't think they used sealant from the factory
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Old Nov 13, 2001 | 01:08 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by TPI Guy:
Won't the teflon sealant effect the sensor's ability to detect knock frequency? I don't think they used sealant from the factory</font>
That's what I read somewhere too. The threads have something on them already. I guess it wouldn't be bad to de-sensitize the knock sensor a little ... since I am going with headers which have a tendency to cause false detonation due to resonation. Anyone else have any opinions on this part?
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Old Nov 13, 2001 | 02:19 PM
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I used a liquid teflon on the threads so it wouldn't leak (I was reinstalling the old sensor on my rebuild). I don't really know if this was a good idea or not, or if it will affect the sensativity of the sensor. Opinions?

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Old Nov 13, 2001 | 02:41 PM
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I used liquid teflon on mine and it seems to be a little less-sensitive than it should be, but I am not complaining....

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Old Nov 13, 2001 | 03:38 PM
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I recently bought a brand new knock sensor from GM (AC Delco) and it comes with a thread sealant already on it (kind of orange in color),so I gotta figure, if GM puts sealant on it , it should be ok for it to have sealant on it.
Any of the teflon-based thread sealants should be fine as well.
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