Holy cow, so THAT's how a 305 is supposed to run!
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From: Littleton, CO USA
Car: 82 Berlinetta/57 Bel Air
Engine: L92/LQ4 (both w/4" stroke)
Transmission: 4L80E/4L80E
Axle/Gears: 12B-3.73/9"-3.89
Holy cow, so THAT's how a 305 is supposed to run!
After planning, researching, reading these boards almost daily, and collecting parts for the past year and a half, I finally drove the Camaro with the mods in the sig for the first time this evening.
Holy cow!
I don't know where to begin. The LG4 had 143,600 on the odometer when I drained the radiator back on November 2nd. Simply runs great. Street, stop & go, freeway, cold and hot starting, etc., appears mild mannered but just a bit of a growl. Idles at 550 rpm as smoothly as the LG4 did. No SES light (yes, the bulb works!). No exhaust fumes like before. No smoke with warm start-up anymore.
But get on it a bit - hang on! I haven't pushed it too hard yet (hey, this was just my first test drive), but it certainly is a lot happier at 5 grand than it ever was before! At least coming off a stop light, I'm sure it would leave the '57 in the dust (and I've been driving the '57 the past two weeks while I've been working on the Camaro, so I should know). No pinging (but I've got premium in the tank right now - burned regular normally with the LG4).
Yes, it would be faster with a 350. But, I maintain, not for the same money I've got in this combo. And, notice it's a daily driver, even in the snow (we'll see if it does as well in those conditions as it did last winter).
So, long post - sorry; will be about 6 months before I can get it out to Bandimere and document the improvement. But, this is one happy 305 camper!
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82 Berlinetta, orig V-6 car, now w/86 LG4/TH700R4, 2300 stall TC. Ported World 305 heads, Crane PowerMax 2050 cam. ZZ4 intake, oil pump, pan & baffle. Accel HEI SuperCoil & module. Hooker 2055 headers, 3" Catco cat & 3" catback w/dual-opposite Flowmaster 80. 2.93 limited slip. Spohn SFCs waiting to be installed. AMSOIL syn lubes bumper-to-bumper. Daily year-round driver. Best ET, speed TBD...
57 Bel Air, my 1st car. '66 396, 9.7:1 forged TRWs, Weiand Action+, Holley 750VS w/4150 conversion, GK 270 cam, Magnum rockers, Jacobs Omnipack, 1-3/4" Hedders & 3" Warlocks, TH400 w/TCI Sat Night Special conv & Trans-Scat shift kit, MegaShifter, 3.08 8.2" 10-bolt w/Powertrax, AMSOIL syn lubes bumper-to-bumper. Idles smooth @ 700 RPM in D. Best 15.02/95.06 @ 5800' Bandimere (corrected 13.93/102.4 @ sea level).
Holy cow!
I don't know where to begin. The LG4 had 143,600 on the odometer when I drained the radiator back on November 2nd. Simply runs great. Street, stop & go, freeway, cold and hot starting, etc., appears mild mannered but just a bit of a growl. Idles at 550 rpm as smoothly as the LG4 did. No SES light (yes, the bulb works!). No exhaust fumes like before. No smoke with warm start-up anymore.
But get on it a bit - hang on! I haven't pushed it too hard yet (hey, this was just my first test drive), but it certainly is a lot happier at 5 grand than it ever was before! At least coming off a stop light, I'm sure it would leave the '57 in the dust (and I've been driving the '57 the past two weeks while I've been working on the Camaro, so I should know). No pinging (but I've got premium in the tank right now - burned regular normally with the LG4).
Yes, it would be faster with a 350. But, I maintain, not for the same money I've got in this combo. And, notice it's a daily driver, even in the snow (we'll see if it does as well in those conditions as it did last winter).
So, long post - sorry; will be about 6 months before I can get it out to Bandimere and document the improvement. But, this is one happy 305 camper!
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82 Berlinetta, orig V-6 car, now w/86 LG4/TH700R4, 2300 stall TC. Ported World 305 heads, Crane PowerMax 2050 cam. ZZ4 intake, oil pump, pan & baffle. Accel HEI SuperCoil & module. Hooker 2055 headers, 3" Catco cat & 3" catback w/dual-opposite Flowmaster 80. 2.93 limited slip. Spohn SFCs waiting to be installed. AMSOIL syn lubes bumper-to-bumper. Daily year-round driver. Best ET, speed TBD...
57 Bel Air, my 1st car. '66 396, 9.7:1 forged TRWs, Weiand Action+, Holley 750VS w/4150 conversion, GK 270 cam, Magnum rockers, Jacobs Omnipack, 1-3/4" Hedders & 3" Warlocks, TH400 w/TCI Sat Night Special conv & Trans-Scat shift kit, MegaShifter, 3.08 8.2" 10-bolt w/Powertrax, AMSOIL syn lubes bumper-to-bumper. Idles smooth @ 700 RPM in D. Best 15.02/95.06 @ 5800' Bandimere (corrected 13.93/102.4 @ sea level).
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From: The State of Hockey
Car: 1987 Trans Am GTA
Engine: Miniram'd 383, 24X LS1 PCM
Transmission: TH700R4, 4200 stall
Axle/Gears: 9", 4.33:1
Sounds good!! But, drive it in the snow?????? Boooooo, hisssssss... 
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1987 GTA L98 MD8
355, TFS Heads, LT4 Hot Cam
My GTA
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1987 GTA L98 MD8
355, TFS Heads, LT4 Hot Cam
My GTA
The Minnesota F-body Club
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From: Calgary, Alberta, Republic of Western Canada
Car: 1986 Sport Coupé
Engine: 305-4v
Transmission: 700R4 and TransGo2
Wow, that is great to hear! Do you think it will beat the 57 in the quarter, too?
As far as I can see, your setup is only a cam and heads different than mine. Which gets me thinking ...
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1986 Camaro Sports Coupe
Flame Red Metallic with Black accents and Red interior
T-tops, variable wiper, power hatch, rear defrost, third brake light
LG4 305 V8, Hooker Shorty headers, 3" pipe into Walker Quiet Flow dual exhaust
Edelbrock Performer intake, "Damonized" Q-Jet 4bbl, K&N filter
Crane vacuum advance kit, Proform 50,000 volt HEI coil and MSD 8.5 mm Super Conductor wires
TH700R4 transmission and Derale cooler
Air conditioning, power windows, power door locks, power brakes, power steering, tilt wheel
Kenwood cassette, Pioneer 6x4 component front speakers
Rockford Fosgate 6x9 Punch rear speakers
Z-28 front and rear sway bars
Aluminum slots and Goodyear 225x60R15 Eagle HP tires
243 horsepower and 326 foot pounds of torque at the flywheel
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Yea verily, and he smote the smog heathens from his small block Chevy, even from the air pump to the converter ...
Todd 1:1
As far as I can see, your setup is only a cam and heads different than mine. Which gets me thinking ...
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1986 Camaro Sports Coupe
Flame Red Metallic with Black accents and Red interior
T-tops, variable wiper, power hatch, rear defrost, third brake light
LG4 305 V8, Hooker Shorty headers, 3" pipe into Walker Quiet Flow dual exhaust
Edelbrock Performer intake, "Damonized" Q-Jet 4bbl, K&N filter
Crane vacuum advance kit, Proform 50,000 volt HEI coil and MSD 8.5 mm Super Conductor wires
TH700R4 transmission and Derale cooler
Air conditioning, power windows, power door locks, power brakes, power steering, tilt wheel
Kenwood cassette, Pioneer 6x4 component front speakers
Rockford Fosgate 6x9 Punch rear speakers
Z-28 front and rear sway bars
Aluminum slots and Goodyear 225x60R15 Eagle HP tires
243 horsepower and 326 foot pounds of torque at the flywheel
_ _ _ _ _ __ _ _ _ _ _
Yea verily, and he smote the smog heathens from his small block Chevy, even from the air pump to the converter ...
Todd 1:1
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From: Littleton, CO USA
Car: 82 Berlinetta/57 Bel Air
Engine: L92/LQ4 (both w/4" stroke)
Transmission: 4L80E/4L80E
Axle/Gears: 12B-3.73/9"-3.89
Sorry, Matt, but when you're supporting 5 on one income, the toy has to have practical purposes as well.
Bull, I'm CC carb, which I'm sure makes a difference (for the good) when it comes to driveability. The match race with the '57 will have to wait until next spring.
Forgot to mention: DR rods on B hanger. JC Whitney chip in the ECM (if you can believe that). Only adjustment I made to the carb was the idle speed.
[This message has been edited by five7kid (edited November 15, 2001).]
Bull, I'm CC carb, which I'm sure makes a difference (for the good) when it comes to driveability. The match race with the '57 will have to wait until next spring.
Forgot to mention: DR rods on B hanger. JC Whitney chip in the ECM (if you can believe that). Only adjustment I made to the carb was the idle speed.
[This message has been edited by five7kid (edited November 15, 2001).]
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From: The State of Hockey
Car: 1987 Trans Am GTA
Engine: Miniram'd 383, 24X LS1 PCM
Transmission: TH700R4, 4200 stall
Axle/Gears: 9", 4.33:1
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by five7kid:
Sorry, Matt, but when you're supporting 5 on one income, the toy has to have practical purposes as well.</font>
Sorry, Matt, but when you're supporting 5 on one income, the toy has to have practical purposes as well.</font>
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1987 GTA L98 MD8
355, TFS Heads, LT4 Hot Cam
My GTA
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Sounds good. I LOVE working on low output "smogger" motors becuase it's relatively easy to draw a bunch more power out of them. They have so much left in them.
Very satisfying to work on. You get lots of "seat of the pants" improvement that you don't need a dyno to tell you it runs a lot stronger!
Very satisfying to work on. You get lots of "seat of the pants" improvement that you don't need a dyno to tell you it runs a lot stronger!
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