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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 04:07 PM
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timing chain cover help

does anybody have a pic of the bottom of there timing chain cover?? i have a massive oil leak and i kinda think its the bottom where the rubber sleeve the half moon lookin thing sits... is that suppose to be visible at all? i look under car and i see almost the whole gasket. is the gasket supposed to sit inside the pan or is it right how i have it???
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 04:57 PM
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Depends on which oil pan you have; but I'd suspect you should be able to see almost ¼" of it.

Let me guess... the smog pump has been hacked off? Brackets and all?
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 05:12 PM
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Depends on which oil pan you have; but I'd suspect you should be able to see almost ¼" of it.

Let me guess... the smog pump has been hacked off? Brackets and all?
its the stock oil pan dunno what kind it would be... its leaking round the bottom where rubber sleeve is...lots of oil when driving around.. possible be not placed right?
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 05:36 PM
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anybody????
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 06:24 PM
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Are you sure that's where it's leaking? REALLY, REALLY sure??

Smog pump hacked off of it? Brackets and all?
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 06:58 PM
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did you replace that recently?
Put RTV on the corners of that rubber seal, where it mates with the block, and oil pan gasket? Like, lots of RTV? No, I mean lots.... I'm pretty sure mine leaks
But yea, sofa might have a point, there's that bolt hole that the smog pump bolts usually fill, if you remove it, you have a nice big oil leak... The hole right where your fuel pump pushrod is...
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 07:09 PM
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did you replace that recently?
Put RTV on the corners of that rubber seal, where it mates with the block, and oil pan gasket? Like, lots of RTV? No, I mean lots.... I'm pretty sure mine leaks
But yea, sofa might have a point, there's that bolt hole that the smog pump bolts usually fill, if you remove it, you have a nice big oil leak... The hole right where your fuel pump pushrod is...
umm yeah its all gunked up right there!!!!!!! how do i block it? it started the other day leaking like a sive???
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 07:25 PM
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You put a REAL SHORT bolt back in the upper bolt hole where the smog pump bracket used to be, with some sealer on the threads.

This started maybe, the day you took off the smog pump?

Of course, you could stick your head in there and inspect the interior of your crankcase first, if you want to see what it looks like.

I knew that because your monitor was so close to your car that I could see the front of the motor.

Actually, it happens to people all the time, when they hack on their cars that way. It's also the most common new-motor mystery oil leak there is. And I learned about it the hard way. Drove a car with a new motor around for at least 2 years, leaking like the Exxon Valdez, before I finally figured it out. This was in the days long before Al Gore invented the Internet, in fact he was still in school at the time I think, so I didn't have all the help you lucky guys can get nowadays.
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by sofakingdom
You put a REAL SHORT bolt back in the upper bolt hole where the smog pump bracket used to be, with some sealer on the threads.

This started maybe, the day you took off the smog pump?

Of course, you could stick your head in there and inspect the interior of your crankcase first, if you want to see what it looks like.

I knew that because your monitor was so close to your car that I could see the front of the motor.

Actually, it happens to people all the time, when they hack on their cars that way. It's also the most common new-motor mystery oil leak there is. And I learned about it the hard way. Drove a car with a new motor around for at least 2 years, leaking like the Exxon Valdez, before I finally figured it out. This was in the days long before Al Gore invented the Internet, in fact he was still in school at the time I think, so I didn't have all the help you lucky guys can get nowadays.
THANK U so much would u happen to know what size it would be??? yeah it just started leaking kinda weird u knew that lol thanks again...
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 07:41 PM
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u know the bolt size by chance?
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Sonix
did you replace that recently?
Put RTV on the corners of that rubber seal, where it mates with the block, and oil pan gasket? Like, lots of RTV? No, I mean lots.... I'm pretty sure mine leaks
But yea, sofa might have a point, there's that bolt hole that the smog pump bolts usually fill, if you remove it, you have a nice big oil leak... The hole right where your fuel pump pushrod is...
u ahppen to know the bolt size for that by chance??
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Sonix
did you replace that recently?
Put RTV on the corners of that rubber seal, where it mates with the block, and oil pan gasket? Like, lots of RTV? No, I mean lots.... I'm pretty sure mine leaks
But yea, sofa might have a point, there's that bolt hole that the smog pump bolts usually fill, if you remove it, you have a nice big oil leak... The hole right where your fuel pump pushrod is...
u happen to know the bolt size by chance?
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 07:43 PM
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3/8"-16, I think.
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 07:56 PM
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3/8"-16, I think.
is it easy to find?
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 07:59 PM
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yea, any auto or hardware store will have a 3/8" coarse bolt. That's 3/8-16. About 1/2" long maybe throw a washer on there too.
Then sealant, or RTV on the threads.
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 08:08 PM
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i meant the bolt hole on the motor sry...
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by billybob6110
i meant the bolt hole on the motor sry...
it should be in the open right? ray charles can see it to huh?? lol
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 11:12 PM
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yea, it's right at the epicenter of your leak

see your block mounted fuel pump? think of where the pushrod goes, visualize it, then you'll see the hole. It's the upper one, of the 2.
here, i've got a pic.
https://webdisk.ucalgary.ca/~jmknopp...de%20motor.jpg
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