I finally blew my 3.1 V6 and found someone who has a 327 HO from an old corvette for VERY cheap and its missing the carbeurator and I was wondering what patern the stock intake manifold had ... like would it take a holly 750 or an Edlebrock or what ... given I dont know the exact year that the motor is Its hard for me to tell and I dont know squat about careurators (prolly cant even spell it right) but if anyone knows let me know...

 

regardless of stock or not, you get an adapter. If it has the oil fill neck in front it could be a problem.

 

could you get us a picture of the intake that is on the motor?

 

if it's a engine for a vett buy it and resale it to someone who needs one and spend the proffit on a common 350 that'll make more power and not be over 30 years old.

 

Please lets not get the 327/350 fight started just answer the original question

 

There was never any such thing as a "327 HO"; not in a Vette, or anything else. Using "HO" as a buzzword that way cheapens it to the point of being meaningless. Things that REALLY are called "HO", such as the recent-model GM crate motor, the L69, or the "Hurst Olds" Cutlasses of the late 60s and early 70s, are the only things that the term can be properly applied to.

Any 327 that is the original motor from a Vette will have heads that lack the bolt holes needed to bolt up the accessories in one of these cars. Since it can't be installed, it's worthless for the application at hand. You can buy some $$brackets$$ from March and a couple of other places that will work, but they will cost you dearly; enough that this "free" motor will cost you more to install, than buying a motor that actually fits.

As stated, if you can get this motor for "very cheap", the SMART thing to do (regardless of the 327/350 issue that is also an ENTIRELY reasonable thing to bring up) is to sell it to someone that needs it to restore a car that it WILL fit, rather than hacking up both your car and this supposedly valuable motor to graunch it in; and use the cash to turn the motor you CAN'T use into one you CAN use.

Apart from that, 327s in Vettes were generally equipped with Holley carbs. Carter ones such as Edelbrock will fit since they have the same (square) flange. Q-Jets will not fit without an adapter.

This is all assuming of course that the romantic-sound story line that is being fed here, is actually true. Which I highly doubt.

 

why exactly will the older 327 not fit?

 

Block mount brackets.

http://www.alangrovecomponents.com/

 

if thats all it is I can make what I need fit I thought it was motor mounts or something ... I need minimal accessories...

 

You need an alternator right?
Do you need power steering?

Then there's the whole "leaded gas" / hardened inserts deal.

Don't fool yourself into thinking you've just won the lottery. Nobody gives away something that is actually worth something. Sorry, but I don't think you're that lucky.
Just because it's from a vette doesn't mean much. There were a lot of slow crappy vettes you know.

I'd bet it needs a full on rebuild, plus the cylinder head work, plus the custom accessories/brackets. Then you wonder why you dumped an EXTRA ~$500 into 30 year old technology, and the guy next to you at the stoplight who saved $500 (we're not talking about other addons like a cam, gaskets, etc, which both of you would be buying), and is running his "new style, non-ho" 350 is spanking you.

 

About 5 years ago a manager at work bought a '65 (I think, may have been '66 or '67) Vette that GM had given to Wally Park's wife. It was still all original. It had a 327 alright, a 2bbl with a Powerglide behind it.

"Vette 327" means next to nothing. It is a V8, but in case you haven't picked up on it yet, it certainly doesn't mean it's "HO".

 

either way I was simply trying to find out what all I needed to get it to fit in the car it anything ... and no I dont need power steering ... all I need is the Alternator ... if it werent for the fact that I am broke i'd drop in a turbocharged LT1

 

Okay, we'll let go of the "HO" thing and address the simple swap issues.

It's basically a V6 to V8 swap. The sticky at the top of the forum gives the basics about that. You'll need a different transmission, as your V6 unit won't fit. You'll need some different mounts, there are various sources for those but the safest bet is another V8 3rd gen. You might be able to use the alternator bracket if it's still on the 327, but you'll be better off finding a 3rd gen alternator. The engine-driven fan used by 3rd gens required a different upper radiator mount, as the fan extends above the top of the radiator - personally, I'd stick with the electric fan and rig that up instead.

There are going to be all sorts of odds & ends such as throttle cable(s), hoses, belts, wiring, gages, fuel delivery, etc.

You might want to eBay that engine and find yourself another 3.1 until you can afford to do the V8 thing right.