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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 10:40 PM
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Car: 84 Z28
Engine: 357
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Have some cash for the car, now what to do...?

Well, i just scored myself a nice job. Going to be raking in the cash faster than i can spend it so i want to plan ahead


The current powerplant is:

350 .040 over 2pc rms
warmed over 416 heads
xe268 bumpstick
edeljunk eps intake
holley 700 DP


Now heres what im thinking...

Same block
AFR 210s
CC magnum 292H bumpstick
edeljunk rpm airgap
holley 700 DP

Along with a TCI 3500 stall TC for the TH350C

Looking for the typical very lumpy idle and a total riot to drive WOT type of car. This is by no means a daily driver (thats what the big mudbogger is for!) it may only see the road once a week (if that) and fuel costs are not an issue anymore...


Then once the rear end blows up i will upgrade that...
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Old Jun 3, 2007 | 08:31 AM
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Re: Have some cash for the car, now what to do...?

That parts set up is gonna be a dog. Lots of air and a lack of gas without really jetting it up. Carb should have at least 750 cfm and the heads should be A.F.R. 195's at the most. Anything bigger and you should look into increasing the engine c.i. to at least a 383. Just my
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Old Jun 3, 2007 | 06:46 PM
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Re: Have some cash for the car, now what to do...?

dropping a 383 rotating assembly in there is definately a possibility, that was actually in the back of my mind for the future upgrades which included forced induction(why i chose rather large runner heads).
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Old Jun 3, 2007 | 07:32 PM
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Car: 1988 Firebird S/E
Engine: 406Ci Vortec SBC
Transmission: TH-350/3500stall
Axle/Gears: 7.5" Auburn 4.10 Posi-Traction
Re: Have some cash for the car, now what to do...?

I'd go with AFR 195's or Dart Pro 1 215's
4.10's
ATI custom 9" Treemaster converter around 3800stall All their converters are custom built to your car.
Comp cams 294s magnum cam or Isky 201547 "547-A"
1.6 roller rockers
Vic Jr manifold port matched.
Long tube hooker or heddmen headers.
new holley or proform HP carb body for the 700dp.
Lower control arms and LCA relocations brackets
frame connectors.
Upgraded fuel system.
I'm having fun spending your money!!!
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Old Jun 3, 2007 | 08:35 PM
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Re: Have some cash for the car, now what to do...?

Keep the heads under 200cc. But if you want a car thats a riot to drive, than you'll like the extra torque from a 383
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Old Jun 3, 2007 | 09:20 PM
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Re: Have some cash for the car, now what to do...?

Yea, a solid flat tappet would make it a blast. I'd spend the couple of extra bucks and get a stud girdle from BMR I think it was. Whoever has the non u-hook style one for $59.

I did some looking at AFR heads, the flow increase as you go up in size isn't really worth it. I'd stick with the 195's, they flow like crazy anyway.

You can go to the 76cc version and stick with a smaller cam if you want, for now, you'd have ~9.3:1 CR or something? That way you can always upgrade to a 383 with dished pistons later, and with the big 76cc heads you'd have a dismal 8:1 CR - perfect for the forced induction. Saves you having to buy bigger chamber heads later.
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Old Jun 3, 2007 | 10:57 PM
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Re: Have some cash for the car, now what to do...?

Originally Posted by F-BIRD'88
I'd go with AFR 195's or Dart Pro 1 215's
4.10's
ATI custom 9" Treemaster converter around 3800stall All their converters are custom built to your car.
Comp cams 294s magnum cam or Isky 201547 "547-A"
1.6 roller rockers
Vic Jr manifold port matched.
Long tube hooker or heddmen headers.
new holley or proform HP carb body for the 700dp.
Lower control arms and LCA relocations brackets
frame connectors.
Upgraded fuel system.
I'm having fun spending your money!!!
Already have the 410s and longtubes w/ 2.5" shorty exhaust

SFCs and LCAs are definately going on! This thing twists up like a tin can already, i dont even know what it would do with more power lol



Does ATI make a TC for the 350C? They seem to be few and far between...


A buddy approached me tonight about buying this motor to put into his 3rd gen trans am. If he does go through with it i will go purchase a roller block thats ready to rock and roll

Last edited by 84z28350; Jun 3, 2007 at 11:00 PM.
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 10:22 AM
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Engine: WAS 350 - now L92 (alum. 378/6.2L)
Transmission: WAS 700R4, now a built T56
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Re: Have some cash for the car, now what to do...?

I actually have a set of AFR 195s (pre-Eliminator) that have never been installed that I'm thinking about selling. I ordered them with 7/16" studs, angle plugs, provisions for the coolant temp sensors, etc. Still trying to decide which way I'm gonna go with my car...

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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 10:49 AM
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Re: Have some cash for the car, now what to do...?

Angle plugs dont play well with LT headers, or do they?
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 04:26 PM
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From: 39.84N 105.11W
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Engine: WAS 350 - now L92 (alum. 378/6.2L)
Transmission: WAS 700R4, now a built T56
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Re: Have some cash for the car, now what to do...?

AFAIK, as long as the headers are designed for a thirdgen, they should be fine. My GTA came stock w/ angle-plug heads, so I merely duplicated what's already there...
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 04:47 PM
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Re: Have some cash for the car, now what to do...?

the comp 294S cam is a pretty lumpy azz cam.. but the 306S is just wicked..
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 04:55 PM
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Re: Have some cash for the car, now what to do...?

so everyone figures i should go solid? even if i sell this block and buy a roller, use solid rollers?
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 06:22 PM
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Re: Have some cash for the car, now what to do...?

Everyone? Maybe two people. But might aswell, you'll probably only put on a couple thousand kms every summer. Just adjust the lash every spring when you put new oil in it or whatever.
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 06:44 PM
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Re: Have some cash for the car, now what to do...?

well if you are going to get a roller block, go roller.. not sure how solid rollers work in roller blocks..
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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 08:44 AM
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Re: Have some cash for the car, now what to do...?

Originally Posted by 5678TA
well if you are going to get a roller block, go roller.. not sure how solid rollers work in roller blocks..
Exactly the same as a flat tappet solid lifter, with the benefit of the roller and being able to run an even wilder cam!


Matt: Yes, this will be lucky to get any more than a few thousand KM's on it every year. Heck, last year when it was my daily driver i barely put enough time on that motor to break it in lol

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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 11:40 AM
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Re: Have some cash for the car, now what to do...?

If you're going to go roller, bypass the Hyd roller deal and go for a solid roller cam setup . Don't need a "roller block" for that.

Reason for going with a solid cam; (roller or flat tappet) is with a 350ci motor you're now getting into the rpm range that a hyd lifter wants to give up (cylinder head flow increase). Not to mention the increased power from a more radical lobe shape. Make the new heads work hard for ya by giving it some rpm.
A good racing solid flat tappet will give you a lot more bang for the $$$'s than switching to a Hyd roller,( block,cam etc etc) for a lot less.

As for wether ATI builds converters for the "Th350C" you would have to ask them directly. recomended them cause they build a mean converter (custom built for your combo,) for a very fair price. The more specific car/motor info you can supply them with, all the better.

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