can i run a single belt after removing a/c and power steering? for some reason it doesnt seem right to me becuase the water pump could slip and it could overheat or something. would i need an eliminator pully or something? has anybody done this?

 

I have never heard of anyone removing the power steering. I know alot of people use the A/C delete pullies and the Smog Pump bypass pullies. Why would you delete the power steering though?

 

for three reasons. mainly because it is going out and i would rather free up the horsepower and weight and get rid of the pump and replace the gear with a manual one. this is going to be strictly a drag car.

 

Yeah, I can understand if you are going for a drag car. The weight isn't much but every bit helps.

 

has anybody else done this?

 

I'm running mine the same except I still have my power steering. But that belt only goes from the crank to the p/s. The other belt goes crank-alt-water pump. No problems in nine months.

 

ok, so it would probably be fine with only the crank-altenator-water pump belt. and the water pump wouldnt slip or anything as long as it is in ther tight?

has anybody else done this? i want to make sure this will be fine for racing.

 

I am running mine like this and no probs yet. This is my dd in the summer with a few trips to the strip thrown in. Actually I have ran 2 or 3 cars like this and never had a problem with it.

 

I drove my 82 TA as a Daily driver without power steering. Good times.

 

how much harder is it to turn with a manual steering box? im thinking about getting one. my crappy honda civic is non power steering. its a bugger to turn once its sitting still but once you get moving its fairly easy.
im sure its the same way with the camaro.
im just wounding because the camaro is alot heaver then my crap '83 civic

im thinking of just having the alt. pump and crank pully just running or get a electric water pump and just have the alt and crank going.

 

the manual steering will be in today so i will let you know how it goes.

 

thanks did you ge it from an 80s S10 truck or something? or which steeringt box did you get?

 

i didnt want to pull one out of the junk yard and have a probability of it being worn out and sloppy, so i picked up a remanufactured one from autozone for around $230. i am hoping that the new steering gear will get rid of the slack in my steering so it would be a little safer at the strip.

 

thats a good idea.
i was thinking of just getting a replacement manual steering box.
which replacement steering box did you get? i mean what was it for. car wise.

 

it was for an 85 S10. although i have heard anything after 84 would work. for some reason at autozone the 85 had a smaller core charge than the 84, so i thought i would take that route.

part of the reason i did it was because my power steering pump was on its way out and i figured since this is going to be a strip car i would lose some weight and pick up a few extra ponies.

i am also already have the a/c out too. two little comfort sacrifices but it will be well worth it.

 

yeah im building a strip car as well. so i dont really need the power steering. and my car never came with AC. so i lucked out there.
im thinking of trying to see if i can keep my surpetine belt setup tho. it comes in really handy if i need to do a quick belt change or something like that.
im just in the process of doing a 383 engine build. im havin trouble finding the right heads and cam combo. for me i think that is the hardest part in an engine build for me. finding a good combo. everything else is petty much an easy go.

would delete pullies use up hp? there not doing anything besids routing the belt around.
i want to get the most hp i can get. im thinking of running a seprate motor for the waterpump. im not to sur what they are called but there an electric pump. but have a smaller belt off of it that is connected to a small motor.

let me know how the steering is with the manual steering box.

 

i will probably be getting an electric water pump as well.

i will let you know how the steering is hopefully later today if all goes well as it should.

i am looking for a head cam combo right now for my 350 and am also not totally sure what to get. i really need to pull the heads off first to check the pistons to make sure they arent domed so i wont have ptv contact with a new top end.

 

im in the process as well for the head and cam combo.
i posted something up yesterday about that. got some reply.
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/tech...cam-combo.html

hopefully it might give you an idea or something.

 

here is a little update, i have all of the old lines and pump out and all of the bolts on the steering gear, but i cant find a pitman arm puller/wedge that will fit for some reason. for anybody who will do this, you will need a 1 and 5/16" socket w/ 3/4" drive for the nut on the pitman arm. i had to make a few trips to find one for a decent price.

 

thats awesome. thanks for the info on that.
is it just about installed?

 

after i get the pitman arm off it will take like 20 minutes tops. it is stuck on there so bad and the shaft is too wide for the middle of the seperator that i rented from autozone. advance doesnt carry a pitman arm puller. so i am going to look for a pully puller that only has two latches because i cant get the pully puller with 3 latches on there good enough to get it out. i will have a lot more time next weekend to finish up. the engine sounds alot healthier without the bad bearing in the power steering pump. so that is good already.

 

thats good engine is sounding better.

i would use every possable tool i own to try to get that pit arm off lol i used the claw from a hammer to pull apart my warn out tierods and idler arm and what not.
totaly trashed the hammer. i just beat the living crap out of the parts. but since your probably gunna reuse it i wouldnt receommend beating it apart lol.how much does a brand new pit arm cost??

 

somehow i forgot to post the results of the origional question. it seems to be running fine with only the one belt that goes around the crank water pump and the alternator. however, i know i am going to get another belt and keep it in my car in case it ever snaps along with the socket i need to get it on.

 

sounds like a good idea.
hows the manual steering coming along?

 

subcribe. i also run 1 belt from crank,alt, water pump. then a separate 1 from crank to powersteering with no problems yet

 

i will finish it this weekend. i dont have any time during the week with college. i still have to do some running to find the right pitman arm puller.

 

you can probably take it to a shop and the can just give it a quick pull. and its done. probably cost you $10 - $20 or so.
i had to get the balljoints pressed in and it cost me $20 for each sidfe of the car. so it wasnt to bad.

 

i will be able to get it off. besides, i am not tagging the car until everything is done in march or april.

 

what other stuff are you doing to your car?

 

The part number for the Pitman arm puller for Auto-Zone loan a tool program is # 27021 which will cost $15.00 and to be refunded when you return the tool.

 

that is the exact one that i have and the shaft of the pitman arm is too wide for the end of the tool. i am going to run up to napa this weekend.

 

i finished everything up this morning and only took one trip to advanced autos, 40 mins, and a few cigarettes. manual steering really isnt that bad. but again the car is untagged so i cant really dirve it on the street.

 

how long would you guess it took to out it all togeather?
and does it drive like a little civic with manual steering or something?
i love manual steering acturally.

 

i havent really taken it out on the road yet because it isnt tagged. i drove around my culdesac once and parked it in the garage and i liked it. as long as you are moving, it doenst drive much differently. if you had the 3/4 drive 1 5/16" socket, the right pitman arm puller, and the other things i had mentioned, you could do it in an hour and a half. i had neither so that is why it took so long.

 

i saw a pit arm remover tool at the auto store for $25. i was thinking about getting it but im not to sure if will work like fitting wise.
and i dont have any big sockets. the biggest socket i think i have is a 3/4 quarter or a 7/8s socket. i might be luckey if i have a 1" socket.
i have a 3/4 drive/ratchet. ill have to go to the store and pick me up the socket size. ill take a look something today and see if the pit arm remover tool will work.
if not i can always take it back.