Tech / General Engine Is your car making a strange sound or won't start? Thinking of adding power with a new combination? Need other technical information or engine specific advice? Don't see another board for your problem? Post it here!

Knocking/Tapping in reverse only

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 05-01-2009, 07:13 PM
  #1  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
sschevy400's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Hatboro, PA
Posts: 21
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 91 z28
Engine: 350
Transmission: auto :(
Knocking/Tapping in reverse only

So what now huh....When the car is in reverse it will knock/tap. Cant locate it at all. Must be the trans?

What do you guys think?

As soon and you put it in park or drive, the noise stops. Place it back in reverse and it comes back. It will tap faster with engine RPM also. some days it there...some its not.

Any ideas? thanks guys
Old 05-01-2009, 07:15 PM
  #2  
Member
 
dr.fiero's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Delta, BC
Posts: 119
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: '91 S10 Blazer
Engine: TBI 350
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.73 posi
Re: Knocking/Tapping in reverse only

I'm thinking motor or trans mount. Torques in the opposite direction in D vs R of course.

Pop the hood, do a partial (not all the way!) brake stand in drive, then do it again in reverse. See how much the engine tilts over each way (should be about equal).

edit: oh yeah... heh... if it does move too far over, I'd start with checking the fan shroud for signs of hits.
Old 05-01-2009, 07:27 PM
  #3  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
sschevy400's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Hatboro, PA
Posts: 21
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 91 z28
Engine: 350
Transmission: auto :(
Re: Knocking/Tapping in reverse only

Yea i thought of that...but electric fans.
I just tried it and the motor moves about 1 1/2 inches in drive and reverse when giving it quick stabs of the throttle with the brake held.
Old 05-01-2009, 07:28 PM
  #4  
Member
 
BtownZ28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Barberton OH
Posts: 126
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1984 Z28
Engine: 305 LG4
Re: Knocking/Tapping in reverse only

I vote trans mount- replace it and see what happens.
Old 05-01-2009, 07:38 PM
  #5  
Member
 
dr.fiero's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Delta, BC
Posts: 119
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: '91 S10 Blazer
Engine: TBI 350
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.73 posi
Re: Knocking/Tapping in reverse only

E-fans, ah yes! Oops.

So, when you did the mini brake stand, did you get any noises?
If not, you've narrowed it down to half the trans, or the driveshaft (etc).

I'd lift up the back end, then run it backwards. See if the noise is still there.
Old 05-01-2009, 07:38 PM
  #6  
Senior Member

iTrader: (3)
 
jagevileye21's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Detroit, MI
Posts: 563
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1991 Z28 Vert
Engine: LT1 350
Transmission: T56 6 Speed
Axle/Gears: 3.42 LSD
Re: Knocking/Tapping in reverse only

My car does the same thing when I put it in reverse (a loud bang) and I have new polyurthene trans mount. Now I'm leaning more towards torque converter being slightly loose, u-joints or bad yoke.


Jay
Old 05-01-2009, 07:49 PM
  #7  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
sschevy400's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Hatboro, PA
Posts: 21
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 91 z28
Engine: 350
Transmission: auto :(
Re: Knocking/Tapping in reverse only

No no noise this time. But it does come and go. It doesnt bang hard, its just taps. I can put my hand on the trans and feel it....almost like the flexplate is rubbing. But then next time, it wont do it at all.

I'll try a trans mount and see what that does

should i get a poly? or a stock one?
Old 05-01-2009, 07:58 PM
  #8  
Member
 
dr.fiero's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Delta, BC
Posts: 119
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: '91 S10 Blazer
Engine: TBI 350
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.73 posi
Re: Knocking/Tapping in reverse only

Your call, but... they're so cheap... I'd toss in a poly from Energy Suspension or whoever floats your boat.

But the way you're saying comes and goes - I'm starting to lean away from it being a mount.
Old 05-01-2009, 09:15 PM
  #9  
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
jv9999's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: MA
Posts: 1,141
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Car: '87 IROC/'68 SS
Engine: 5.7L/350
Transmission: 700R4/Muncie 4-spd
Axle/Gears: 3.27 9 bolt / 3.31 12 bolt
Re: Knocking/Tapping in reverse only

I vote for a cracked flex plate.
Old 05-02-2009, 04:16 PM
  #10  
Member

 
el_muerte's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
Posts: 428
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: '87 Z-28
Engine: LT1-topped 400
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: 3.42
Re: Knocking/Tapping in reverse only

make sure it's not the exhaust hitting the transmission, i had a similar problem... strange knocking sound that comes and goes, changes with engine speed, and comes from transmission area.
Old 05-16-2017, 11:29 PM
  #11  
Junior Member
 
gavin.priestley's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Corpus Christi, Texas
Posts: 41
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Car: 1988 Pontiac Firebird
Engine: 305 V8, TBI
Re: Knocking/Tapping in reverse only

Hey guys im new here, and I know this is kind of an old thread, but I'm having a problem with my bird, like when the car is cold, the engine is fine, but as soon as the engine reaches normal temperature and I put it in reverse or drive I hear a kind of knocking/lifter sound. But then if i put it back in Park, the noise goes away. I just changed the oil, replaced the oil pump with a HV one and put a new oil filter too. When me and my dad were down there he noticed a bad bearing on the crank, so we replaced that as well, it was the only bad one, so idk now, idk is it the lifters?
Old 05-17-2017, 01:22 AM
  #12  
Supreme Member
iTrader: (1)
 
GeneralDisorder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 4,255
Received 422 Likes on 323 Posts
Car: 86 Imponte Ruiner 450GT, 91 Formula
Engine: 350 Vortec, FIRST TPI, 325 RWHP
Transmission: 700R4 3000 stall.
Axle/Gears: 9 Bolt Torsen 3.70
Re: Knocking/Tapping in reverse only

Crank bearings feed rod bearings - did you check those too?

It's not usually a great idea to roll bearings into an engine once one has "gone bad". Do you have any pictures of the bad one?

GD
Old 05-17-2017, 08:32 AM
  #13  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (1)
 
86LG4Bird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Bright, IN
Posts: 1,390
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: '86 Bird, 96 ImpalaSS, 98 C1500XCab
Engine: LG4, LT1, L31
Transmission: 700R4, 4L60E, 4L60E
Axle/Gears: 3.73 Tors, 4.88 spool, 3.73 Eaton
Re: Knocking/Tapping in reverse only

Don't rule out an exhaust manifold leak.
Since the exhaust is somewhat restrained by its mounts to the chassis, a "barely-there" exhaust leak could be opened up when the engine+transmission torques over one way in reverse, and closed up when in neutral or torqued over in a forward gear.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
F-body driver
Transmissions and Drivetrain
17
03-06-2023 11:44 AM
Hotrodboba400
Firebirds for Sale
3
12-10-2019 07:07 PM
Veaceonee
Firebirds for Sale
11
09-29-2016 08:15 PM
nova983
European Region
6
11-02-2015 12:15 PM
84redta
Tech / General Engine
2
09-19-2015 09:58 AM



Quick Reply: Knocking/Tapping in reverse only



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:30 PM.