Car tuned-now idles too low and stalls out?
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Car: 1984 Trans Am
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Car tuned-now idles too low and stalls out?
Hey guys,
I had my 84 T/A tuned on a Chassis dyno after having my new 350 dropped in and it seems to be idling too low now...but only when really warmed up.
When I start the car the engine is idling around 1200 or so, once it warms up that drops down to 900ish....(closed loop I believe it the term I'm looking for). Anyway, I drop it into gear and it hovers around 650 or so...but then it starts stumbling...eventually dropping in idle until it stalls out. Now, once the car is warm (180+ with my 160* thermostat), even in park the idle will start to stumble a bit and sometimes eventually drop so low that it will stall out.
When the weather was cooler, the idle stayed semi-high, even once warmed up, around 800ish when in gear and I didn't have this problem. Any ideas?
Just a side note, I really love how the car sounds idling a 650, has a really mean rumble to it.
I had my 84 T/A tuned on a Chassis dyno after having my new 350 dropped in and it seems to be idling too low now...but only when really warmed up.
When I start the car the engine is idling around 1200 or so, once it warms up that drops down to 900ish....(closed loop I believe it the term I'm looking for). Anyway, I drop it into gear and it hovers around 650 or so...but then it starts stumbling...eventually dropping in idle until it stalls out. Now, once the car is warm (180+ with my 160* thermostat), even in park the idle will start to stumble a bit and sometimes eventually drop so low that it will stall out.
When the weather was cooler, the idle stayed semi-high, even once warmed up, around 800ish when in gear and I didn't have this problem. Any ideas?
Just a side note, I really love how the car sounds idling a 650, has a really mean rumble to it.
Last edited by Ozz1967; May 21, 2009 at 07:51 PM.
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Re: Car tuned-now idles too low and stalls out?
sounds exactly what we had... we replaced the throttle positioning sensor and now ours is fine.
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Car: 1984 Trans Am
Engine: LS1383 in work
Transmission: Magnum F - to be installed
Axle/Gears: Zexel Torsen 3.73, 28-spline mosers
Re: Car tuned-now idles too low and stalls out?
does a carbed car even have a throttle positioning sensor? This wouldn't be equivilent to my idle stop solonoid would it?
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Car: '87 IROCZ
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Re: Car tuned-now idles too low and stalls out?
For a carb car, dont you hsve an idle screw? I would reset the idle speed and re-adjust the timing.
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Car: 1984 Trans Am
Engine: LS1383 in work
Transmission: Magnum F - to be installed
Axle/Gears: Zexel Torsen 3.73, 28-spline mosers
Re: Car tuned-now idles too low and stalls out?
As for timing, i'm at 12 advanced initial (distributor unplugged), 36 actual, I believe is what the dyno guy said.
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Re: Car tuned-now idles too low and stalls out?
On my '87 EFI OBDI car, I do set the idle RPM and can set the base timing while the EST wire is disconnected. So, I assume that there should be no issue with you doing the same as long as you follow the proper instructions.
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Car: 1984 Trans Am
Engine: LS1383 in work
Transmission: Magnum F - to be installed
Axle/Gears: Zexel Torsen 3.73, 28-spline mosers
Re: Car tuned-now idles too low and stalls out?
Today I came home from work, (13 miles one way), the car was well warmed up but when I put it into park, it jumped to high idle (1300ish). put it in drive again, dropped to 650-700, back to park, normal idle (1000ish). I just wish it would stay where it's supposed to. it's been crazy ever since I put this new 350 in the car.
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Re: Car tuned-now idles too low and stalls out?
does a carbed car even have a throttle positioning sensor? This wouldn't be equivilent to my idle stop solonoid would it?
The idle stop solenoid is used to increase idle when the A/C is turned on.
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