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idle problem when warm

Old Feb 27, 2010 | 06:52 PM
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idle problem when warm

i have a 305 tbi when i start it up in the morning it idles fine. but when it starts to warm up the idle raises and falls till it eventually stalls.

could this be caused by a vacum leak?
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Old Feb 27, 2010 | 06:59 PM
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Re: idle problem when warm

i have the same problem
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Old Feb 27, 2010 | 07:21 PM
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Re: idle problem when warm

any ideas? anyone
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Old Feb 28, 2010 | 09:10 AM
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Re: idle problem when warm

The ECM does a few things different once the coolant comes up to temp.
As the time-out fueling decays away, the AFR will go leaner. If you have a vacuum leak, it will cause the most problems once the engine goes lean.

Once at a certain temp the ECM will try to switch into closed-loop operation using feedback from the O2 sensor. If the sensor is bad, or you have an exhaust leak near the sensor, you will notice problems with idle.

Also, at a certain temperature a couple of other functions are triggered that use vacuum lines for actuation. One of them is the EGR system. If a system is malfunctioning or there is an open or broken vacuum line, or otherwise a vacuum leak, then it will cause idle problems at this time.

There are many other possible causes, but these are good places to start.
Datalogging is also a great place to start. As you do your testing you might want to post further questions in the TBI section or the DIYPROM section.
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Old Feb 28, 2010 | 11:38 AM
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Re: idle problem when warm

How clean is the IAC?
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Old Feb 28, 2010 | 03:21 PM
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Re: idle problem when warm

check t-body mounting gasket very closely for vacuum leaks
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