Engine Surging Problem Solved
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Engine Surging Problem Solved
Let me start by thanking everyone on this forum for their help even though they didnt know they were helping me. Its such a help when working on ones car to be able to delve into the breadth of information shared on this forum.
Im finally able to drive my camaro again and enjoy it after months of hair pulling. I was dealing with a surging/no power issue. I know there are many other threads out there regarding similiar issues as i have read alll of them in search of the solution. I didnt really know which one to add this post to so i just started my own. I just wanted to drive home that anyone with a similiar issue should be sure to check the fuel pressure coming from the tank before beginning to change out parts, sensors and the like. Hopefully you will be lucky as i was and be able to borrow one from a local mechanic. Another semi-helpful tool is a scan tool. I say semi b/c lets face it the computers in our cars arent exactly that helpful to begin with lol.
The only code i could get my car to throw was "oxygen lean" which makes perfect sense as it was in fact starving for fuel. However at the time i simply checked the tbi and it appeared to be getting plenty of fuel with a nice spray mist so i replaced the oxygen sensor which of course did nothing to alleviate the problem. It was after this i was able to score a fuel pressure gauge and replaced the in line fuel filter with it to learn that i only had approximately 4psi.
So at this point i purchased a fuel pump and after a couple months finally got around to dropping the tank (major PITA) to install it. There are several threads on here that discuss replacing fuel pumps. My 2 cents is that the only way to do it is to completely drop the rear end, or atleast as far as it will go without removing the driveshaft and trailing arms. Now finally for the payoff of making you suffer through all my rambling. The problem was not actually the pump itself but rather the little rubber hose that connects the pump to the metal fuel line. It had obtained a slit about 1/4" long causing the pump to just be pumping fuel right back into the tank and lose almost all its pressure. I went ahead and replaced the fuel pump with the new one of course while i had the tank out. Now it runs great and im once again thoroughly enjoying my third gen.
Im finally able to drive my camaro again and enjoy it after months of hair pulling. I was dealing with a surging/no power issue. I know there are many other threads out there regarding similiar issues as i have read alll of them in search of the solution. I didnt really know which one to add this post to so i just started my own. I just wanted to drive home that anyone with a similiar issue should be sure to check the fuel pressure coming from the tank before beginning to change out parts, sensors and the like. Hopefully you will be lucky as i was and be able to borrow one from a local mechanic. Another semi-helpful tool is a scan tool. I say semi b/c lets face it the computers in our cars arent exactly that helpful to begin with lol.
The only code i could get my car to throw was "oxygen lean" which makes perfect sense as it was in fact starving for fuel. However at the time i simply checked the tbi and it appeared to be getting plenty of fuel with a nice spray mist so i replaced the oxygen sensor which of course did nothing to alleviate the problem. It was after this i was able to score a fuel pressure gauge and replaced the in line fuel filter with it to learn that i only had approximately 4psi.
So at this point i purchased a fuel pump and after a couple months finally got around to dropping the tank (major PITA) to install it. There are several threads on here that discuss replacing fuel pumps. My 2 cents is that the only way to do it is to completely drop the rear end, or atleast as far as it will go without removing the driveshaft and trailing arms. Now finally for the payoff of making you suffer through all my rambling. The problem was not actually the pump itself but rather the little rubber hose that connects the pump to the metal fuel line. It had obtained a slit about 1/4" long causing the pump to just be pumping fuel right back into the tank and lose almost all its pressure. I went ahead and replaced the fuel pump with the new one of course while i had the tank out. Now it runs great and im once again thoroughly enjoying my third gen.
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Re: Engine Surging Problem Solved
That's great to hear and thanks for the information!
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Re: Engine Surging Problem Solved
i have known of/had seen this happen before . i can't help but wonder if the cause of the rubber hose failure might "ETHANOL" ? any other thoughts on this ???
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Re: Engine Surging Problem Solved
I just want to add to this thread a little bit of helpful info. Be absolutely sure that you use a fuel grade (inside/outside) hose. anything else will split and fail. it's a bit more expensive, but worth it.
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