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Old Mar 25, 2012 | 01:05 AM
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WHO KNOWS THE ANSWER...FOR 10 POINTS!!!

Could someone please tell me what the device circled in the picture is? It is located on the firewall behind the clutch fluid cylinder. I turned my car off and it wont start back up. All my electronics work inside and out. When i turn the key to start my car, this thing just clicks. Please help..i need my transportation

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Old Mar 25, 2012 | 07:54 AM
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Re: WHO KNOWS THE ANSWER...FOR 10 POINTS!!!

need a closer picture.but on my tpi that is where the fan +fuel pump relay are.
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Old Mar 25, 2012 | 09:04 AM
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gotcha. will see what i can do. thanks for the reply. you only get 5 points cause you arent positive lol jk
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Old Mar 25, 2012 | 09:24 AM
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Re: WHO KNOWS THE ANSWER...FOR 10 POINTS!!!

this sounds about like my problem...

Originally Posted by camaronewbie
Does the fuel pump prime for 1-2 seconds when you turn the key to ON? You can usually hear it - might get someone to turn the key on while you have ear against gas tank (or the hump in the rear cargo area) and listen. If not, you need to look at the fuel pump relay.

The fuel pump relay is located on the driver side firewall, between the brake booster and the fender. There is a bracket there, with two 10mm bolts holding the bracket to the firewall. On the 'inner' side of that bracket, there will be 2 relays, one is for the fan (it will have a large black wire with red stripe), the other is for the fuel pump. You should be able to hold the relay in your hand and feel it 'click' when the key is turned on. If not, Mark the fuel pump relay with a sharpie, then swap it with the fan relay and see if it works then. If so, then replace relay. If not, then check the wiring and the connector for the relay to make sure no frays, scorched marks, etc.

In your car, the ECM controls the fuel pump. It sends a 12v+ signal on the green with white stripe wire to the relay that "activates" it - the ECM sends this for 2 seconds when key turned to ON to 'prime the fuel pump (ie send fuel to the injectors to start with). Then, after the car is started, the ECM detects a constant ignition signal from the distributor and constantly sends out that 12v+ signal to the relay, making the pump run always.

IN THE EVENT that the ECM or fuel pump relay isn't working, the Oil Pressure Sending Unit (OPSU) takes over fuel pump operation. When the OPSU senses oil pressure (takes 10-30 seconds) it will start running the fuel pump and thus bypass the bad ECM or relay. That's why it often takes several starts, or a long cranking period, to get the car started. Make sense?
so 'rrf321', you get all 10 points. they will be deposited into your bank account as big shiny Mario coins that you will have to jump onto, then off of a coopa troopa's head to have access to and spend lol good luck and thanks
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Old Mar 25, 2012 | 10:15 AM
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Re: WHO KNOWS THE ANSWER...FOR 10 POINTS!!!

I may have to look at this solution to my problem to ( posted by camaronewbie) about the fuel pump relay. The ECM & OPSU has been replaced on my car.
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Old Mar 25, 2012 | 04:58 PM
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Re: WHO KNOWS THE ANSWER...FOR 10 POINTS!!!

glad to help.keep us posted
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Old Mar 25, 2012 | 08:47 PM
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Re: WHO KNOWS THE ANSWER...FOR 10 POINTS!!!

Yeah, the fan relay has four wires going to it, the fuel pump one has five
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