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Old Aug 14, 2012 | 05:00 PM
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Knock, great oil pressure, loss of power, no metal in oil

As the title says. I have had a knock on start up but goes away instantly. Now it's more of a tick, but still a knock I guess? I have great oil pressure even at operating temperature, doesn't over heat at all. Seems as it warms up, I have a great loss of power. No SES light, no backfire, misfire, stumble, hesitation, nothing. Just feels like I'm running on half a engine.

Here's a video of the noise. A friend of mine noted how the knock actually goes away at the very end of the video, in a sense intermittent.

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Old Aug 14, 2012 | 05:13 PM
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Re: Knock, great oil pressure, loss of power, no metal in oil

with a pipe held to your ear you may be able locate the noise more accurately.
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Old Aug 14, 2012 | 05:49 PM
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Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
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Re: Knock, great oil pressure, loss of power, no metal in oil

Check your tq converter bolts and your crank to flexplate bolts 1st.
Also check 4 a broken flexplate. You will have to remove the trans for the best view.
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Old Aug 14, 2012 | 05:54 PM
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Re: Knock, great oil pressure, loss of power, no metal in oil

I should mention, this is not external related. All surrounding possible areas have been checked and double checked. Not exhaust or anything like that. It's definitely internal but just not sure what.
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Old Aug 14, 2012 | 05:56 PM
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Re: Knock, great oil pressure, loss of power, no metal in oil

So you checked everything I said??
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Old Aug 14, 2012 | 06:01 PM
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Re: Knock, great oil pressure, loss of power, no metal in oil

The TC to flexlate is nice and tight, just how I like my women.

The flexplate to crank bolts I have not checked. My symptoms really don't point me in that direction to be honest.

For example, when I do a oil change, the knock is prolonged UNTIL oil pressure is built up, few seconds, then it quiets down to the point you can barely hear it.
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Old Aug 14, 2012 | 06:40 PM
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Old Aug 14, 2012 | 07:46 PM
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Re: Knock, great oil pressure, loss of power, no metal in oil

Originally Posted by hydrolic144
The TC to flexlate is nice and tight, just how I like my women.

The flexplate to crank bolts I have not checked. My symptoms really don't point me in that direction to be honest.

For example, when I do a oil change, the knock is prolonged UNTIL oil pressure is built up, few seconds, then it quiets down to the point you can barely hear it.
That would kinda be normal for a oilchange if you don't fill the new filter b4 you put it on.
The vid you made, was it warmed up or a fresh oil change??
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Old Oct 7, 2012 | 04:49 PM
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Re: Knock, great oil pressure, loss of power, no metal in oil

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That would kinda be normal for a oilchange if you don't fill the new filter b4 you put it on.
The vid you made, was it warmed up or a fresh oil change??
Kinda late here. But this video was right around operating temps. Car had been running for some time.

Nearly 2 months later and still ticking.
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Old Oct 10, 2012 | 01:22 PM
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Re: Knock, great oil pressure, loss of power, no metal in oil

I would think maybe the knock sensor is getting set of and retarding the timing. A significant knock should vibrated the sensor enough to set it off.
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