Project MightyMouse, Codenamed LB4: The Forbidden Motor
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And why build a 383? I'm still restricting myself compared to going with a 400s 4.125" bore size and 2.05+ valves.
I commend you on trying to assemble an intelligent response to facilitate your backhanded points, but at the end of the day you still don't seem to understand the proper usage of "your" and "you're".
It's cool. Hate on. Power to you
I commend you on trying to assemble an intelligent response to facilitate your backhanded points, but at the end of the day you still don't seem to understand the proper usage of "your" and "you're".
It's cool. Hate on. Power to you
Grammar? Really? Nice. You got me, i'm done.
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i'm sorry is the argument that you build a 383 because 350s are more common then 400s even meant to be taken literally? you know ya need a 400's crank to make a 383 out of a 350 right?
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I think your probably going to want a smaller cam, I have the XFI280 in my 355 and it's pretty choppy. The 305 will make that worse, you may want to consider the XFI252 or XFI260. Any kind of TPI motor doesn't like to rev past 5200, the XFI276 makes peak power at 6000+
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I think your probably going to want a smaller cam, I have the XFI280 in my 355 and it's pretty choppy. The 305 will make that worse, you may want to consider the XFI252 or XFI260. Any kind of TPI motor doesn't like to rev past 5200, the XFI276 makes peak power at 6000+
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Also, stroker motors are better at handling higher duration cams. The least I will put in will be a 270. A 252 or 260 will be leaving power on the table.
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Not many people build 383's with stock cranks these days, too many cheap aftermarket ones, not too mention the OP is buying an aftermarket stroker crank for the 305.
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I would run some sims, or at least talk to someone at Comp and see what they think.
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High heaven? Those runners are barely even scuffed!! it ends after a few inches then its bone stock . The siamesing can help a litte and I see some was removed from the floor then it all stops- overall ID of the whole piece needs to be increased to pick up total airflow. IMO taking the wall down is just providing you access to get to the real meat and potatoes of the work Think guys, without knowing better go nuts on some huge opening leave the rest then get disappointed when the car is really no faster if any at all.
CSA=cross sectional area of head
CSA=cross sectional area of head
What do you suggest using to get to curved area of the runners? The only thing I can think of is an extrude hone job.
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IIRC I tried plugging everything into the comp cams simulator. The 276 produced something like 3 - 5 HP more than the 268 but lost 14 ft/lbs. This was however assuming the stock stroke of 3.48" since their program doesn't allow the selection of a 305 stroker LOL.
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That's exactly what I used to open the siamese. You cannot get down into the turn with a flexshaft. The only methods I'm aware of that work is either an extrude hone or cutting the runners open then welding them back together.
Take a look at these photos. I don't think some of you guys understand just how much material was removed. I effectively shortened the runner length while extending plenum volume. It is only the turn I wasn't able to gain access to, although I know it is still a bottleneck.
https://www.facebook.com/video/video...94870590540108
Take a look at these photos. I don't think some of you guys understand just how much material was removed. I effectively shortened the runner length while extending plenum volume. It is only the turn I wasn't able to gain access to, although I know it is still a bottleneck.
https://www.facebook.com/video/video...94870590540108
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While you may have added plenum volume, it may be too much. And you probably have disturbed the port velocity as well. Should be interesting to see the results though, good luck with the build.
I still think the 270 will be a little large, you may gain some peak upper rpm power, but your giving up torque and mid range power. Look at all the results with the LPE219 cam
I still think the 270 will be a little large, you may gain some peak upper rpm power, but your giving up torque and mid range power. Look at all the results with the LPE219 cam
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Too bad 400 blocks are getting pretty rare, oddly enough they seem
to have decreased in value. Guess the aftermarket blocks have had an impact.
I have a 509 casting on the stand just waiting to be assembled for my 71.
to have decreased in value. Guess the aftermarket blocks have had an impact.
I have a 509 casting on the stand just waiting to be assembled for my 71.
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I decided to pass on it after the guy wouldn't let me remove a head and the oil pan to check it over. Boy am I glad I didn't buy that motor...
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It was $100, what did you expect? If it was all known-good stuff, then the price would certainly have been higher. It's not like he wouldn't let you inspect a $1000+ engine. At $100, its priced to move, not to have someone tear it down, look it over, then offer $50.
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OK, so here's a quick story on what happened with this 400...
On my previous job as a parts delivery driver for advance auto, I went into one of the local shops ran by a jamaican dude named Earl. I looked and saw the smallblock sitting on the floor and expected it to be your typical 305/350 since these are practically everywhere. My jaw hit the floor however when I ran the casting number. My jaw hit the floor again when he told me he'd sell me the complete motor for $100 and that the only problem with it was a "Stick-ee liftah mon!". Things underneath the valve covers and in the lifter valley looked clean. Perhaps a little too clean and this raised a red flag.
I thought it over for the next couple of days and figured I was going to buy this motor, rebuild the stock bottom end with new rings and bearings since a 6.6l wasn't going to need anything fancy in order to make some good numbers, then drop around $1600 - $2000 on a set of good heads and a cam kit since obviously flat tappet and call it a day. With one exception: he let me pull a head and drop the oil pan first. He got offended when I asked him this despite the fact I told him I would re-assemble it even if I didn't buy it. I decided to back out at that point and called my friend since he was also interested in it. The next day we throw it in the back of his blazer and he's off.
So, what was the final verdict on this 400 you ask? He tore it apart the next day only to discover that the "stick-ee liftah" tap was actually 5 spun rod bearings. The crank and rods were badly blackened so not re-usable. The whole bottom end except for the pistons was shot. It also turns out this motor was a jasper rebuild and had already been bored over once. At the machine shop, the end cost was $1600. It had to go through all the usual tests and refresh techniques plus it needed an alignment bore and IIRC he had to sleeve the cylinders but don't quote me on that one.
Would you have been able to trust the integrity of this motor after that? Had I had the chance to inspect it, I wouldn't have offered him a thing. If it had checked out though I was prepared to hand over the $100 because that was already dirt cheap.
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Ditto on not going too big on the cam. Runner length is runner length cam accordingly.
Gotta get to that bottleneck on those runners...can siamese and make the opening big all day long but withouth that improved you wont see the gains youd think you would.
Gotta get to that bottleneck on those runners...can siamese and make the opening big all day long but withouth that improved you wont see the gains youd think you would.
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I did talk to comp. I told the tech the specifics on the motor and my goals and to my surprise he actually recommended the 280XFI cam (And specifically said that taking forum advice was a BAD idea). However, I feel that this would be too much and am not comfortable with running this much duration on the street much less with a TPI in general.
It looks like I've decided to go my original plans of the 276XFI. The tech told me a custom grind would not be any additional cost and just means they don't offer a pre-ground cam with those specs. So plus for me.
However I am asking again how to go about getting at the turn in the runners. The dremel flex-shaft will not reach that far back so how am I supposed to port the "runner abyss"?
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305's can be cool my first f-body was an 87 formula 305-5speed car and i absolutely loved it it had had some work done by the p.o. but i have no idea what i suspect a can and computer work. now im building a inexpensive "leftover parts motor" after i build mine it will be a 305ish motor that chevy should have built a 30 over 302 in all reality so keep us informed
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Any updates or anything new? lol
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cant wait to see this things numbers, I got the 30300003 heads for my build got the heads last week, look awesome unfortunately my car sits 750 miles away from me so all I can do is look at my new heads, headman full length headers, 268xfi cam and kit, and intake manifold and make vroom vroom sounds in my head all night till mid may lol, my pops runs a body shop so my project should sky rocket this fall ill post pics as it gets along the way, we built a 70 Camaro for him this summer took it from rags to riches, but the engine was already rebuilt, so we focused on his body first
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cant wait to see this things numbers, I got the 30300003 heads for my build got the heads last week, look awesome unfortunately my car sits 750 miles away from me so all I can do is look at my new heads, headman full length headers, 268xfi cam and kit, and intake manifold and make vroom vroom sounds in my head all night till mid may lol, my pops runs a body shop so my project should sky rocket this fall ill post pics as it gets along the way, we built a 70 Camaro for him this summer took it from rags to riches, but the engine was already rebuilt, so we focused on his body first
My car the engine is going into is actually in the April COTM voting thread right now.
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BUMP!
I know everyone is still wondering what is going on now that this post lies dormant. The time is near my 305 brethren. In a few months I will buying a second vehicle then it's game time!
On a side note, to add insult to injury, I have fully restored the A/C in my car which I will be carrying over to the new motor. The 334 will be rolling down the road with the vents blowing cold
I know everyone is still wondering what is going on now that this post lies dormant. The time is near my 305 brethren. In a few months I will buying a second vehicle then it's game time!
On a side note, to add insult to injury, I have fully restored the A/C in my car which I will be carrying over to the new motor. The 334 will be rolling down the road with the vents blowing cold
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BUMP!
I know everyone is still wondering what is going on now that this post lies dormant. The time is near my 305 brethren. In a few months I will buying a second vehicle then it's game time!
On a side note, to add insult to injury, I have fully restored the A/C in my car which I will be carrying over to the new motor. The 334 will be rolling down the road with the vents blowing cold
I know everyone is still wondering what is going on now that this post lies dormant. The time is near my 305 brethren. In a few months I will buying a second vehicle then it's game time!
On a side note, to add insult to injury, I have fully restored the A/C in my car which I will be carrying over to the new motor. The 334 will be rolling down the road with the vents blowing cold
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I actually have the 276xfi cam in my 305 and I love it. I think for my application it might be a little much but I wanted the nasty rumble when u pull up. My 305 is basically stock it got the cam, magnum roller rockers, headman short tube into a full 3" system with a single flowmaster super 10, a street strip intake and a Holley 650 double pumper. So I think with you stroking the 305 out to a 334 with the good heads and taking that much material out of the intake I think you will be very pleased with the cam, but if I was you I might look into some larger injectors and fuel pump to be able to keep up with all the extra air. I will be looking forward to see what kind of numbers this combination will put out, it will probably suprise some of the 350 guys. Lol
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I actually have the 276xfi cam in my 305 and I love it. I think for my application it might be a little much but I wanted the nasty rumble when u pull up. My 305 is basically stock it got the cam, magnum roller rockers, headman short tube into a full 3" system with a single flowmaster super 10, a street strip intake and a Holley 650 double pumper. So I think with you stroking the 305 out to a 334 with the good heads and taking that much material out of the intake I think you will be very pleased with the cam, but if I was you I might look into some larger injectors and fuel pump to be able to keep up with all the extra air. I will be looking forward to see what kind of numbers this combination will put out, it will probably suprise some of the 350 guys. Lol
The injectors are Bosch III 22/lb so I'm hoping they will be able to deliver. If not that sucks but hey I can always swap out.
Good to hear about that cam!
The time is near. Just waiting on the daily driver around septemberish. Have a good stable job making good money. I didn't start with the engine as soon as I would have liked but it is coming. I promise!
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The fuel pump in my car has a bit of age on it (Was in installed by a PO around 2005ish) but it is a Walbro 255.
The injectors are Bosch III 22/lb so I'm hoping they will be able to deliver. If not that sucks but hey I can always swap out.
Good to hear about that cam!
The time is near. Just waiting on the daily driver around septemberish. Have a good stable job making good money. I didn't start with the engine as soon as I would have liked but it is coming. I promise!
The injectors are Bosch III 22/lb so I'm hoping they will be able to deliver. If not that sucks but hey I can always swap out.
Good to hear about that cam!
The time is near. Just waiting on the daily driver around septemberish. Have a good stable job making good money. I didn't start with the engine as soon as I would have liked but it is coming. I promise!
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FireDemon only way I could get down in there was as you found other than having to siamese was to take the wall down on the bottom side where its thick, follow it in far as possible. Then you can get a 6 in carbide down in there. Even at that its difficult to control and truly be effective.
Cutting/welding would be easiest imo. I wont port/siamese runners anymore unless they are cut open simply isnt worth the time. Siamesing is overrated on its own.
Cutting/welding would be easiest imo. I wont port/siamese runners anymore unless they are cut open simply isnt worth the time. Siamesing is overrated on its own.
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Enjoy your project and the power level you have decided to play in.
Just keep several things mind when you are ready to upgrade:
Your old engine will not be worth much to anyone else, except another 305 afficionado.
IF you decide to spray or boost...... A stock block was not
engineered for high HP / TQ stresses especially under boost or Nitrous (elevated cylinder pressures) no matter what you have for a rotating assembly the stock block will eventually lift the heads or fail in some other way. This does not have to happen at the dragstrip.. you can be having fun on the street or expressway.
This goes for ANY OEM engine block, not just the 305.
I have seen too many people build a "high performance engine" using all the best internal parts, great heads, etc, etc, but are married to a OEM block..
Typically this is a recipe for disaster. but does not have to be when there are many affordable aftermarket Hi-perf engine blocks. Even if you want a
"305" you can use an aftermarket 350 block and de-stroke it...Like a DART SHP block,, it can handle over 600 HP.. and it pretty affordable.
at least you never have to worry about the block no matter what you plan to do in the future.
An aftermarket block will always be worth more on a resale... you never get your money back on these deals but at least it will be easier to sell later on.
Also you or and the next guy have the option of simple changing the crank to turn the "305" into a 350, change the rod and make s 383...
FWIW don't limit your options using a stock 305 block that does not allow you the ability to make changes (easily) in the future. and there is no worse feeling than blowing a head gasket because the stock block is the weak link.
Just keep several things mind when you are ready to upgrade:
Your old engine will not be worth much to anyone else, except another 305 afficionado.
IF you decide to spray or boost...... A stock block was not
engineered for high HP / TQ stresses especially under boost or Nitrous (elevated cylinder pressures) no matter what you have for a rotating assembly the stock block will eventually lift the heads or fail in some other way. This does not have to happen at the dragstrip.. you can be having fun on the street or expressway.
This goes for ANY OEM engine block, not just the 305.
I have seen too many people build a "high performance engine" using all the best internal parts, great heads, etc, etc, but are married to a OEM block..
Typically this is a recipe for disaster. but does not have to be when there are many affordable aftermarket Hi-perf engine blocks. Even if you want a
"305" you can use an aftermarket 350 block and de-stroke it...Like a DART SHP block,, it can handle over 600 HP.. and it pretty affordable.
at least you never have to worry about the block no matter what you plan to do in the future.
An aftermarket block will always be worth more on a resale... you never get your money back on these deals but at least it will be easier to sell later on.
Also you or and the next guy have the option of simple changing the crank to turn the "305" into a 350, change the rod and make s 383...
FWIW don't limit your options using a stock 305 block that does not allow you the ability to make changes (easily) in the future. and there is no worse feeling than blowing a head gasket because the stock block is the weak link.
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Enjoy your project and the power level you have decided to play in.
Just keep several things mind when you are ready to upgrade:
Your old engine will not be worth much to anyone else, except another 305 afficionado.
IF you decide to spray or boost...... A stock block was not
engineered for high HP / TQ stresses especially under boost or Nitrous (elevated cylinder pressures) no matter what you have for a rotating assembly the stock block will eventually lift the heads or fail in some other way. This does not have to happen at the dragstrip.. you can be having fun on the street or expressway.
This goes for ANY OEM engine block, not just the 305.
I have seen too many people build a "high performance engine" using all the best internal parts, great heads, etc, etc, but are married to a OEM block..
Typically this is a recipe for disaster. but does not have to be when there are many affordable aftermarket Hi-perf engine blocks. Even if you want a
"305" you can use an aftermarket 350 block and de-stroke it...Like a DART SHP block,, it can handle over 600 HP.. and it pretty affordable.
at least you never have to worry about the block no matter what you plan to do in the future.
An aftermarket block will always be worth more on a resale... you never get your money back on these deals but at least it will be easier to sell later on.
Also you or and the next guy have the option of simple changing the crank to turn the "305" into a 350, change the rod and make s 383...
FWIW don't limit your options using a stock 305 block that does not allow you the ability to make changes (easily) in the future. and there is no worse feeling than blowing a head gasket because the stock block is the weak link.
Just keep several things mind when you are ready to upgrade:
Your old engine will not be worth much to anyone else, except another 305 afficionado.
IF you decide to spray or boost...... A stock block was not
engineered for high HP / TQ stresses especially under boost or Nitrous (elevated cylinder pressures) no matter what you have for a rotating assembly the stock block will eventually lift the heads or fail in some other way. This does not have to happen at the dragstrip.. you can be having fun on the street or expressway.
This goes for ANY OEM engine block, not just the 305.
I have seen too many people build a "high performance engine" using all the best internal parts, great heads, etc, etc, but are married to a OEM block..
Typically this is a recipe for disaster. but does not have to be when there are many affordable aftermarket Hi-perf engine blocks. Even if you want a
"305" you can use an aftermarket 350 block and de-stroke it...Like a DART SHP block,, it can handle over 600 HP.. and it pretty affordable.
at least you never have to worry about the block no matter what you plan to do in the future.
An aftermarket block will always be worth more on a resale... you never get your money back on these deals but at least it will be easier to sell later on.
Also you or and the next guy have the option of simple changing the crank to turn the "305" into a 350, change the rod and make s 383...
FWIW don't limit your options using a stock 305 block that does not allow you the ability to make changes (easily) in the future. and there is no worse feeling than blowing a head gasket because the stock block is the weak link.
Sorry but I'm not following your logic other than maybe the 2 bolt mains.
Plenty of strong engines have been built on factory blocks. I'll probably end up tossing a 100 shot at it and calling it a day. If it blows, cross that bridge when I get there.
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Tell me son, how many high performance motors have you built?
Not many if you think a stock block will last very long.
read & understand what you are getting into before you do it twice.
http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/e...ck_comparison/
Not many if you think a stock block will last very long.
read & understand what you are getting into before you do it twice.
http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/e...ck_comparison/
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A stock 305 will live just fine with a 100-125 shot of N20
I did this to mine 14 years ago... with over 120,000 miles on it..
had fun for 2 years then sold the engine & built a 383.
Sold the N20 kit 2 years ago... never used on the 383.
when you start making over 500 hp the stock block is garbage.
I did this to mine 14 years ago... with over 120,000 miles on it..
had fun for 2 years then sold the engine & built a 383.
Sold the N20 kit 2 years ago... never used on the 383.
when you start making over 500 hp the stock block is garbage.
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A stock 305 will live just fine with a 100-125 shot of N20
I did this to mine 14 years ago... with over 120,000 miles on it..
had fun for 2 years then sold the engine & built a 383.
Sold the N20 kit 2 years ago... never used on the 383.
when you start making over 500 hp the stock block is garbage.
I did this to mine 14 years ago... with over 120,000 miles on it..
had fun for 2 years then sold the engine & built a 383.
Sold the N20 kit 2 years ago... never used on the 383.
when you start making over 500 hp the stock block is garbage.
If you think I'm planning on making huge power with this motor, you're dead wrong. Truth is, I really don't want to boost it because I know I will be pushing the limits of the 2 bolt main. Not to mention the 7.5" ring gear.
Again, people seem to be under the misconception that I am building this engine to compete and break records. I just want something with good power that will be fun on the street.
I'm not doing the nitrous off the bat. I'm going to see how the car feels on all motor then go from there.
Thanks for the link though I will check it out.
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Re: Project MightyMouse, Codenamed LB4: The Forbidden Motor
Enjoy your project and the power level you have decided to play in.
Just keep several things mind when you are ready to upgrade:
Your old engine will not be worth much to anyone else, except another 305 afficionado.
IF you decide to spray or boost...... A stock block was not
engineered for high HP / TQ stresses especially under boost or Nitrous (elevated cylinder pressures) no matter what you have for a rotating assembly the stock block will eventually lift the heads or fail in some other way. This does not have to happen at the dragstrip.. you can be having fun on the street or expressway.
This goes for ANY OEM engine block, not just the 305.
I have seen too many people build a "high performance engine" using all the best internal parts, great heads, etc, etc, but are married to a OEM block..
Typically this is a recipe for disaster. but does not have to be when there are many affordable aftermarket Hi-perf engine blocks. Even if you want a
"305" you can use an aftermarket 350 block and de-stroke it...Like a DART SHP block,, it can handle over 600 HP.. and it pretty affordable.
at least you never have to worry about the block no matter what you plan to do in the future.
An aftermarket block will always be worth more on a resale... you never get your money back on these deals but at least it will be easier to sell later on.
Also you or and the next guy have the option of simple changing the crank to turn the "305" into a 350, change the rod and make s 383...
FWIW don't limit your options using a stock 305 block that does not allow you the ability to make changes (easily) in the future. and there is no worse feeling than blowing a head gasket because the stock block is the weak link.
Just keep several things mind when you are ready to upgrade:
Your old engine will not be worth much to anyone else, except another 305 afficionado.
IF you decide to spray or boost...... A stock block was not
engineered for high HP / TQ stresses especially under boost or Nitrous (elevated cylinder pressures) no matter what you have for a rotating assembly the stock block will eventually lift the heads or fail in some other way. This does not have to happen at the dragstrip.. you can be having fun on the street or expressway.
This goes for ANY OEM engine block, not just the 305.
I have seen too many people build a "high performance engine" using all the best internal parts, great heads, etc, etc, but are married to a OEM block..
Typically this is a recipe for disaster. but does not have to be when there are many affordable aftermarket Hi-perf engine blocks. Even if you want a
"305" you can use an aftermarket 350 block and de-stroke it...Like a DART SHP block,, it can handle over 600 HP.. and it pretty affordable.
at least you never have to worry about the block no matter what you plan to do in the future.
An aftermarket block will always be worth more on a resale... you never get your money back on these deals but at least it will be easier to sell later on.
Also you or and the next guy have the option of simple changing the crank to turn the "305" into a 350, change the rod and make s 383...
FWIW don't limit your options using a stock 305 block that does not allow you the ability to make changes (easily) in the future. and there is no worse feeling than blowing a head gasket because the stock block is the weak link.
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Re: Project MightyMouse, Codenamed LB4: The Forbidden Motor
Not trying to achieve LSx power levels or get a 10 second car.
The motor will live N/A perfectly fine with everything I have planned. Will it hold up to a 100 shot ontop? Probably. I haven't come to a final decision on it yet so my research in that area is skimp.
He seemed to be under the impression (From the "son" connotation) that I am a young punk who has no idea what he's getting himself into.
The D1SC comment was only a future possibility but again I I haven't crossed that bridged yet so I haven't done the supporting research. I'm not simply going to put 8psi through an already radical motor and assume it will live.
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Don't worry about these guys. All of a sudden it's only about being fast to them. Look at the true hot rodders and now the rat rodders. It's not about being that fastest, it's about being different, looking different, and being loud. These other guys consider themselve to be "car guys" or "gearheads" but can't even appreciate the beast that you're going to turn this 305 in to.
Kinda reminds me of that movie "Wildhogs" where those "badass bikers" think they need to put on an act for everyone to make them "real bikers", but in reality it's about loving to ride your motorcycle. Same thing applies with this.
Kinda reminds me of that movie "Wildhogs" where those "badass bikers" think they need to put on an act for everyone to make them "real bikers", but in reality it's about loving to ride your motorcycle. Same thing applies with this.
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Don't worry about these guys. All of a sudden it's only about being fast to them. Look at the true hot rodders and now the rat rodders. It's not about being that fastest, it's about being different, looking different, and being loud. These other guys consider themselve to be "car guys" or "gearheads" but can't even appreciate the beast that you're going to turn this 305 in to.
Kinda reminds me of that movie "Wildhogs" where those "badass bikers" think they need to put on an act for everyone to make them "real bikers", but in reality it's about loving to ride your motorcycle. Same thing applies with this.
Kinda reminds me of that movie "Wildhogs" where those "badass bikers" think they need to put on an act for everyone to make them "real bikers", but in reality it's about loving to ride your motorcycle. Same thing applies with this.
Guys like Chip Foose took off from and were inspired, like my generation, by Codington, Butera, Sullivan, Roth, and so many other artisans / speed freaks before them.
True artisans, craftsmen, and hot rodders.. that is what I aspire to and admire.. a bunch of dorks that can't replace a fuel pump... not so much LOL
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Food for thought: Not one real builder I mentioned ever used a 305 for anything... well maybe for scrap. LOL
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Re: Project MightyMouse, Codenamed LB4: The Forbidden Motor
I've been reading some of your reply's to these threads and I have too say, while I may not know as much as you do, and I may not have the experience you do, why do you care? Why do you act like such an *** hole?
It's not always about who's the fastest here.. with me I'm running a 305 in my Camaro and getting help with a full top end rebuild, only looking to make a high 12 second, or low 13 second car.. Maybe mid 12's on N20. Why is that not good enough for a daily driver? Why can't this guy build what he wants and be proud of what hes done? Mustang guys build 281's all the time and don't get told to go build a 351W or something.. C'mon now.. It's his money, not yours.
If it's about speed, why are we even focusing on cars? Line up with my 2009 GSXR 1000, with bolt ons.. and I bet I'll take your best car and make it look silly.