HEI Distributor runs better advanced but wont start
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Car: 85 Firebird Trans Am
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HEI Distributor runs better advanced but wont start
I recently swapped out my 305 with a 350 (.060 over) and mild cam stock intake and a older quadrajet with mechanical choke recently rebuilt. HEI distributor with vacuum advance. I turn the distributor as far advance as possible without it kicking back against the starter, it starts fine and runs pretty good at idle.
The throttle response is weak from idle but good from 1500+
When i advance the distributor it seems to idle and rev better without pinging. But when I cut the engine off and try to start again its kicking back against the starter and just turns over very slowly like its to far advance
Do i need to adjust the vacuum canister or change my springs?
The throttle response is weak from idle but good from 1500+
When i advance the distributor it seems to idle and rev better without pinging. But when I cut the engine off and try to start again its kicking back against the starter and just turns over very slowly like its to far advance

Do i need to adjust the vacuum canister or change my springs?
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Re: HEI Distributor runs better advanced but wont start
Re: HEI Distributor runs better advanced but wont start
I recently swapped out my 305 with a 350 (.060 over) and mild cam stock intake and a older quadrajet with mechanical choke recently rebuilt. HEI distributor with vacuum advance. I turn the distributor as far advance as possible without it kicking back against the starter, it starts fine and runs pretty good at idle.
The throttle response is weak from idle but good from 1500+
When i advance the distributor it seems to idle and rev better without pinging. But when I cut the engine off and try to start again its kicking back against the starter and just turns over very slowly like its to far advance
Do i need to adjust the vacuum canister or change my springs?
The throttle response is weak from idle but good from 1500+
When i advance the distributor it seems to idle and rev better without pinging. But when I cut the engine off and try to start again its kicking back against the starter and just turns over very slowly like its to far advance

Do i need to adjust the vacuum canister or change my springs?
Joined: Apr 2005
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From: Not in Kansas anymore
Car: 82 Z28
Engine: 383 SP EFI/ 4150 TB
Transmission: T400
Axle/Gears: QP 9" 3.73
Re: HEI Distributor runs better advanced but wont start
all he appears to be doing is just screwing around blindly with the dist trying to find " somewhere" were it runs "right"
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Re: HEI Distributor runs better advanced but wont start
The problem with "using a timing light" is, all it can tell you, is where the timing is; it can't tell you where it should be. "looking up" some "spec" based on your vehicle's sheet metal wrinkles in some "book" will only tell you what it should be if the engine is absolutely untouched and identical to how it left the factory; once it's been modified, the owner must learn where it now should be instead of the "spec", which is now, by definition, WRONG. Easiest way to get there, is:
"If it RUNS good, it IS good".
If the starter is too weak to start the engine when it RUNS good, then maybe the problem is THE STARTER, not THE ENGINE.
"If it RUNS good, it IS good".
If the starter is too weak to start the engine when it RUNS good, then maybe the problem is THE STARTER, not THE ENGINE.
Re: HEI Distributor runs better advanced but wont start
Ah yes lol....I hadn't noticed. I still know guys that do this, even after spending money on good parts.....but not a good dial back light.....well, to the OP, if you have one, follow my steps and use it, if you don't, stop chasing your tail until you get one.
Re: HEI Distributor runs better advanced but wont start
The problem with "using a timing light" is, all it can tell you, is where the timing is; it can't tell you where it should be. "looking up" some "spec" based on your vehicle's sheet metal wrinkles in some "book" will only tell you what it should be if the engine is absolutely untouched and identical to how it left the factory; once it's been modified, the owner must learn where it now should be instead of the "spec", which is now, by definition, WRONG. Easiest way to get there, is:
"If it RUNS good, it IS good".
If the starter is too weak to start the engine when it RUNS good, then maybe the problem is THE STARTER, not THE ENGINE.
"If it RUNS good, it IS good".
If the starter is too weak to start the engine when it RUNS good, then maybe the problem is THE STARTER, not THE ENGINE.

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From: Greenville, NC
Car: 85 Firebird Trans Am
Engine: Mild built 350
Transmission: Borg Warner T-5
Axle/Gears: Borg Warner 9-Bolt
Re: HEI Distributor runs better advanced but wont start
I miss placed my timing light, or borrowed it out and never got it back. I have never had a problem without using one before untill now :/. Ill buy one this weekend and try the steps above, thanks for the feedback everyone. Could the problem be its a cheap aftermarket hei unit? I installed it in the original 305 and it ran pretty well but sitting for a few months and being moved around change its performance?
Also my alternator is in good working condition, I have load tested the battery and its in good shape. The starter is pretty new and i had it tested like a week ago before installing, But it is stock replacement and the 305 had like 8.5:1 compression and I'm now estimating 10.3+:1 compression
Also my alternator is in good working condition, I have load tested the battery and its in good shape. The starter is pretty new and i had it tested like a week ago before installing, But it is stock replacement and the 305 had like 8.5:1 compression and I'm now estimating 10.3+:1 compression
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