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Old Jun 30, 2013 | 06:51 AM
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Help...fuel pump ?

I have a 1988 5.7 TPI trans am GTA, the car was running fine and a few minutes later I went to start it and it would hardly stay running, one thing I had noticed is that now I do not hear the fuel pump running at all but it will still start but I have to feather the gas pedal and when I rev it up it runs rough and miss firers and the exhaust smells rich with some black smoke, any ideas if this could be that I need a new fuel pump or...?
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Old Jun 30, 2013 | 09:03 PM
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Re: Help...fuel pump ?

Originally Posted by MikeMN
any ideas
have you pulled the engine codes to see if anything amiss ?

Originally Posted by MikeMN
the exhaust smells rich with some black smoke?
Running rich
Many possibilities
Bad CTS telling the computer engine is colder than what it is so it adds too much fuel ?
Leaking injectors maybe ?

Originally Posted by MikeMN
I have a 1988 5.7 TPI trans am GTA, the car was running fine and a few minutes later I went to start it and it would hardly stay running, one thing I had noticed is that now I do not hear the fuel pump running at all but it will still start but I have to feather the gas pedal and when I rev it up it runs rough and miss firers and the exhaust smells rich with some black smoke, any ideas if this could be that I need a new fuel pump or...?
Unlikely the pump is the problem if engine is rich
Have you done a fuel pressure test and a leak down test on the injectors.
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Old Jul 1, 2013 | 04:39 PM
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Re: Help...fuel pump ?

Originally Posted by vetteoz
have you pulled the engine codes to see if anything amiss ?


Running rich
Many possibilities
Bad CTS telling the computer engine is colder than what it is so it adds too much fuel ?
Leaking injectors maybe ?


Unlikely the pump is the problem if engine is rich
Have you done a fuel pressure test and a leak down test on the injectors.

I had a code for the MAF burn off relay and replaced it with no change in the way it runs, that is all I have done so far, the main thing that I have noticed is I do not hear the fuel pump come at all, I could always hear it come on before starting it and after it was running, Thank you for responding.
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Old Jul 1, 2013 | 06:24 PM
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Re: Help...fuel pump ?

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the main thing that I have noticed is I do not hear the fuel pump come at all,
Think about it.
If the pump wasn't running neither would the engine
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Old Jul 1, 2013 | 06:46 PM
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Re: Help...fuel pump ?

Originally Posted by vetteoz
Think about it.
If the pump wasn't running neither would the engine
I know, that's the weird thing about it.

Why do you think the pump is NOT making any noise but yet it will still runs half azz .......... ?
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Old Jul 1, 2013 | 09:09 PM
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Re: Help...fuel pump ?

Need to check fuel pressure with a gauge. Sounds like a bad fuel pressure regulator.
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Old Jul 2, 2013 | 01:16 PM
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Re: Help...fuel pump ?

I second the fuel pressure thought. There is a thin rubber diaphragm inside the fuel pressure regulator that can tear. Once torn, you can smell gas from the vacuum line that is connected to it. I attached a picture of what it looks like
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Old Sep 1, 2014 | 05:24 PM
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Re: Help...fuel pump ? " Update "

Update, I solved the problem.

It was the pick up coil and what ever the thing is called in the last pic was hitting the outer piece, car now runs great after 2 years sitting in the garage with a new distributor installed...





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