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Old Jan 11, 2014 | 06:51 PM
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I had a couple questions I got a 91 Firebird with a 350 and turbo trans it has a hurst hydramatic shift kit could barely get it from park to drive the guy said that he took the power steering belt off it was hard to turn right anyways I was whondering if anyone could help me I got some pics
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Old Jan 11, 2014 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by patriots781
could barely get it from park to drive
Disconnect the shifter cable at the trans end.
If the shifter moves freely then problem is inside the trans;
if it doesn't then the problem is with the shifter (or it's cable )

Originally Posted by patriots781
he took the power steering belt off I was whondering if anyone could help me
What is the question ?

Your engine is not original and has none of the stock front drive accessories from your year model

Also helps if you post pics the right way up
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Old Jan 11, 2014 | 09:02 PM
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Dry bout the upside down pic my question is he said the power steering belt is off so once I put it back on it'll be easier to turn Bob I'm assuming and is it possible the hurst shift needs to be broken in a little?
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Old Jan 11, 2014 | 10:38 PM
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Yah well he said he took the power steering belt off to drag race and that I Can put it back on there only one belt on right now
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Old Jan 11, 2014 | 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by patriots781
the power steering belt is off so once I put it back on it'll be easier to turn
Would make sense ; with no pump working you have no power assist
Not really sure why you are asking the question , seems the obvious thing to ?
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Old Jan 11, 2014 | 11:05 PM
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Because I wanted to know if I need to do anything else or if I put the belt back on it'll be all set? otherwises gt edelbrook intake,demon carb,Bbk long tube headers,turbo 350 trans with shift kit hurst slap shifters New battery and radiator the front headlights don't pop up and the brake light stays on I just want it to be easier to steer and for the shifter to not be so damn tight

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Old Jan 12, 2014 | 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by patriots781
I just want for the shifter to not be so damn tight
So do the test I suggested above to identify if the problem is with the shifter or the trans
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Old Jan 12, 2014 | 01:33 AM
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ya. put it belt back on you'll be set. Not to tight or pump bearing will wear faster and belt will stretch out. Not to lose cause belt will slip. I like about a inch of play in my belt after tightening pump.

I don't know why you rambled off all those performance parts. Are you having problems with all that stuff too?

Do like vetteoz said to pinpoint shift problem

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Old Jan 12, 2014 | 01:38 AM
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try pulling up by hand your brake pedal to see if brake light goes off. There's a switch for brake light toward the top of the brake pedal mount. May just need readjusted. Or may need replaced.
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Old Jan 12, 2014 | 04:26 AM
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The point of the brake light isn't to try to get the light off,but more so to find out why you have a low brake peddle.To adjust the switch just to turn the light off with a low brake peddle is pretty scarey.
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Old Jan 12, 2014 | 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by krisner89
There's a switch for brake light toward the top of the brake pedal mount. May just need readjusted.
That is the switch for the BRAKE LIGHTS.

Having the BRAKE light in the IP on means either the switch on the park brake is out of adjustment or there is a brake system ( fluid ) failure

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Old Jan 12, 2014 | 11:58 AM
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So there's the belt I gota put back on but the bolt is so damn tight is there any video or picture to show me step by step how to put back on I tried youtube
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Old Jan 12, 2014 | 12:27 PM
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Couple more pics does anyone know the exact engine it is lik I know it's a chevy 350 small block is there anymore info I can put in to get the Manuel to engine
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Old Jan 12, 2014 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by vetteoz
That is the switch for the BRAKE LIGHTS.

Having the BRAKE light in the IP on means either the switch on the park brake is out of adjustment or there is a brake system ( fluid ) failure

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Brake light does two functions; shows PB is engaged or a brake system fault
True. kinda misunderstood question. Thought actual brake taillights stayed on

Is the instrument panel brake light on or does the actual brake taillights stay on?

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Old Jan 12, 2014 | 12:56 PM
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a good suggestion might be to go to your local auto parts store and buy a common repair manual for your vehicle. it covers all the basics and usually has pictures and diagrams.
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Old Jan 12, 2014 | 01:11 PM
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All the nuts need to be loose on the power steering pump so you can move it left to right by hand. PB blaster(in a aerosol can found at parts store) works good on bolts to break them loose.

Next install the belt on the crankshaft pulley(The bottom one centered with the engine) then loop it around power steering pump.

Slide pump toward driver side of car till belt tightens around pullies. Tighten all pump nuts and bolts. Your going to want a little play in the belt after everything is tightened.
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Old Jan 12, 2014 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by redneckjoe
a good suggestion might be to go to your local auto parts store and buy a common repair manual for your vehicle. it covers all the basics and usually has pictures and diagrams.
I second that for car related problems. Brakes,electrical,etc...

All small blocks are basically the same from 1955 to 2003 in vehicles factory equipped with the gen 1 v8(what u have). Last I checked a GM subsidiary in Mexico still makes the engine as a crate engine for replacement and hot rodding purposes. Anyway a small block chevy performance manuel may also be needed to help you with engine specific problems you may incounter.
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Old Jan 12, 2014 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by patriots781
is there any video or picture to show me step by step how to put back on


Don't need a video , it is pure logic!
(something that seems to be lacking in the current generation of new owners , need a video on how to wipe their ar*e)

Gotta get the bolts loose 1st so the PS pump can be moved closer to the water pump in order to the belt on the 2 pulleys?
Once the belt is on, you pull the pump back out to achieve correct belt tension and tighten it in that location.
Not exactly rocket science is it ?


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does anyone know the exact engine it is
I know it's a chevy 350
is there anymore info I can put in to get the Manuel to engine
Without further investigation by you all we know is it is a SBC.
May not even be a 350 , could be a 283 or a 400, all you can tell is the heads are off a '86 or earlier.

'000 of books around on SBC engines but they mostly deal with the internals and rebuilding which I suspect is out of your league if you are struggling to work out how to put a belt on ?
The correct year factory manual will be a big help with the car ( wiring etc ) but as you appear to have few 3rd Gen parts on the engine won't help much there except for diagnostics
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Old Jan 12, 2014 | 06:31 PM
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Wow sorry I asked how bout I wipe my **** with you...thanks everyone for the help so I just wrap the belt around crankshaft and pump with the smaller of the two belts he gave me 3 belts which was why I asked
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Old Jan 12, 2014 | 06:36 PM
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The guy said it's a jegs gm crate motor 350 chevy 5.7
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Old Jan 12, 2014 | 07:29 PM
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heres a video for ya. you tube has a lot of vids like this if you need it, but a shop manual would really be useful. keep it in your car in case you break down.

this might help you in identifying your engine?
http://www.mortec.com/location.htm
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Old Jan 12, 2014 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by patriots781
The guy said it's a jegs gm crate motor 350 chevy 5.7
Any paperwork or receipts ?
Given all SBC's from 283 - 400 look basically identical on the outside and many seller think they have a 350 in place of the stock 305
the casting # at the rear of the block will at least give a indication of what it might be,

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Old Jan 13, 2014 | 08:47 AM
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For you to go on Ebay and buy s factory service manual with the electrical supplement would be a very positive step.They are very cheap to get and have details that you will not find anywhere.Published for the dealership's tech by GM.
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Old Jan 13, 2014 | 10:06 AM
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Knowing the next question to be asked will be "I got all the bolts loose but the pump won't move, can you help" The stud on the back of the pump at 10:00 position.
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Old Jan 13, 2014 | 01:02 PM
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Ok I gt the belt on but now my car wont even turn over
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Old Jan 13, 2014 | 06:57 PM
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Anyone know?
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Old Jan 14, 2014 | 08:09 AM
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It was working fine I loosened the bolt to move the ps pump over but belt on tightened it went to start car and nothing wouldn't even turnover its got a brand new battery there's a on off switch for the gas and so I'm supposed to turn it on then there's a kill switch underneath so put the key in. Turn hit the button nd iylt fires up not anymore so frustrating idk y the guy hadda put all tht stuff I mean I know why its stupid tho so any ideas what could be
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Old Jan 21, 2014 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by patriots781
The guy said it's a jegs gm crate motor 350 chevy 5.7
Jegs has a couple dozen different 350s that it could be.
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Old Jan 21, 2014 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by patriots781
It was working fine I loosened the bolt to move the ps pump over but belt on tightened it went to start car and nothing wouldn't even turnover its got a brand new battery there's a on off switch for the gas and so I'm supposed to turn it on then there's a kill switch underneath so put the key in. Turn hit the button nd iylt fires up not anymore so frustrating idk y the guy hadda put all tht stuff I mean I know why its stupid tho so any ideas what could be
Your posts are insanely hard to read. Slow down and reread before you post.

Sounds like there may or may not be a kill switch in your car. I would get out a multi meter and check that.
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