Oiling issue with rocker arms?
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Car: 87 GTA, 88 GTA, 92 TA, 72 RS SS
Engine: 350, 350, 305, 396
Transmission: T56, 700r4, 700r4, T56
Axle/Gears: 3.42, 3.23, 3.23, 3.73
Oiling issue with rocker arms?
I have about 2k miles now on this engine and I started noticing a little blue smoke if you let it set and idle when it was hot. It would also blow a little puff upon a hot restart but nothing at all when it was cold.
I decided to dig into the issue and found that the number 1 exhaust valve is flowing an excessive amount of oil compared to the rest:
I pulled the valve spring on no.1 exhaust and found a chewed up valve seal. When I replaced them with the posi-seal type during the rebuild i think I forgot to oil it before I put it on. replaced the valve seal and all is good now, no smoke.
The unbalanced oil flow still concerns me a bit, all of the rockers have oil flowing, just a lot less than no.1 exhaust.. should I be concerned?
I decided to dig into the issue and found that the number 1 exhaust valve is flowing an excessive amount of oil compared to the rest:
I pulled the valve spring on no.1 exhaust and found a chewed up valve seal. When I replaced them with the posi-seal type during the rebuild i think I forgot to oil it before I put it on. replaced the valve seal and all is good now, no smoke.
The unbalanced oil flow still concerns me a bit, all of the rockers have oil flowing, just a lot less than no.1 exhaust.. should I be concerned?
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Re: Oiling issue with rocker arms?
I would be concerned too. Are your pushrod and rocker passages open? Are you using hydraulic or solid lifters? Oil flows from the back of the block forward, through and around each lifter. For it to get to the front, that confirms good flow through the block.
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Re: Oiling issue with rocker arms?
What brand of rockers are those? I would probably pull that rocker and swap it to another valve to see if it follows the rocker or the valve items. At least you can narrow it down a bit.
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Re: Oiling issue with rocker arms?
Also it looks like the poly lock is not screwed on very far. How many threads are they taking up. I have seen a lot of stock studs break where the poly lock ends
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Car: 87 GTA, 88 GTA, 92 TA, 72 RS SS
Engine: 350, 350, 305, 396
Transmission: T56, 700r4, 700r4, T56
Axle/Gears: 3.42, 3.23, 3.23, 3.73
Re: Oiling issue with rocker arms?
I'm thinking its a problem with that lifters oil control disc.
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Car: 87 GTA, 88 GTA, 92 TA, 72 RS SS
Engine: 350, 350, 305, 396
Transmission: T56, 700r4, 700r4, T56
Axle/Gears: 3.42, 3.23, 3.23, 3.73
Re: Oiling issue with rocker arms?
Some cheapo 1.6 I got off ebay, I did swap it when I replaced the valve seal. no change in flow.
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Car: 87 GTA, 88 GTA, 92 TA, 72 RS SS
Engine: 350, 350, 305, 396
Transmission: T56, 700r4, 700r4, T56
Axle/Gears: 3.42, 3.23, 3.23, 3.73
Re: Oiling issue with rocker arms?
They are just really long poly locks, I'm getting stud about halfway up the lock.
I'm thinking being that its at the end of the oil circuit maybe the oil is blowing through that lifter more, engine has great oil pressure @ 55psi hot idle
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Car: 87 GTA, 88 GTA, 92 TA, 72 RS SS
Engine: 350, 350, 305, 396
Transmission: T56, 700r4, 700r4, T56
Axle/Gears: 3.42, 3.23, 3.23, 3.73
Re: Oiling issue with rocker arms?
I am going to switch over from a LTR setup to HSR soon so I think I will drop in a new set of lifters while I'm in there and see if that changes anything.
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