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Old Jul 20, 2017 | 07:01 AM
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Car: 1987 IROC-Z
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Drove on Tuesday, Won't start on Wednesday

Looking for some ideas here. Drove my IROC (5.7 TPI) to work this week Tuesday including two stops on the way home then parked in garage with no issues. Went to jump in it Wednesday morning and everything is normal except the car won't fire. I have dash lights, can hear the fuel pump priming the rail, and the engine cranks just fine but that is all it will do.

I was able to check just a few items last night. I have 42 psi at the rail. I tried unplugging the MAF sensor and cranking with no luck. I checked all the fuses I could find (are there fuses someplace for the injectors?) and everything seems ok. I pulled plugs from #1,2, and 4 cylinders and they did not look wet like car was flooded.

It was in the mid 80's here Tuesday with high humidity though. Any chance I could have had a Ignition control module just take a crap? Or Electronic Spark Control Module possibly? External Coil? I'm planning on checking for spark tonight when I get home from work. Any ideas would certainly be appreciated. Thank you.
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Old Jul 20, 2017 | 07:51 AM
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Re: Drove on Tuesday, Won't start on Wednesday

You do have 2 INJECTOR Fuses, but highly unlikely for both to fail/blow at the same time. I would be checking the Ignition system like coil/module.

Do you even have spark??

EDIT: Woops, spark not checked yet!
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Old Jul 21, 2017 | 06:58 AM
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Car: 1987 IROC-Z
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Axle/Gears: Borg Warner 9 bolt with 3.27
Re: Drove on Tuesday, Won't start on Wednesday

Got home from work last night and dove into the troubleshooting. Right away I found no spark from ignition coil to distributor. Checked coil according to factory service manual and all seems good there. Nothing but a code 12 from the ECM either.

Pulled distributor cap and all looks good. No corrosion at all and the pickup coil resistance is measuring 840 ohms which is within the range listed in the manual. I just put new plugs, cap, rotor, and plug wires (all AC Delco) in this spring so they have less than 1500 miles on them.

I checked wiring between ignition control module and coil and I have good continuity. Also, with the ignition on I have a good 12.46 volts to the coil.

I am leaning very heavily towards the ignition control module being the problem but I have no way of knowing how to test it. I am hoping that my AC Delco distributor here in town can test it for me. Am I heading in the right direction here?

Thank you for taking the time to read this and help out. I always appreciate the help from this group.
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Old Jul 21, 2017 | 07:01 AM
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Re: Drove on Tuesday, Won't start on Wednesday

Yeah, take it to a auto parts store and have them test it several times. Sounds like you are doing the T/S right. Good luck!
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Old Jul 21, 2017 | 07:23 AM
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Re: Drove on Tuesday, Won't start on Wednesday

Thanks Bob. I appreciate the support.

Sometimes I am awfully intimidated by that TPI system. I can see why some folks rip it all out and go back to the plain old carb setups.
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Old Jul 21, 2017 | 07:28 AM
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Re: Drove on Tuesday, Won't start on Wednesday

Originally Posted by Jimmy2x
Thanks Bob. I appreciate the support.

Sometimes I am awfully intimidated by that TPI system. I can see why some folks rip it all out and go back to the plain old carb setups.
Its really not bad. Intimidating...yes at times. But when everything is working correctly, it will pull stumps outta the ground!!
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Old Jul 24, 2017 | 08:13 AM
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Car: 1987 IROC-Z
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Axle/Gears: Borg Warner 9 bolt with 3.27
Re: Drove on Tuesday, Won't start on Wednesday

Update: A new AC Delco Ignition Control Module and the car fired right back up. How lucky can a guy be to have a piece like that fail right after you park in the garage?
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Old Jul 24, 2017 | 09:30 AM
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Re: Drove on Tuesday, Won't start on Wednesday

Glad to hear! Good deal. It happens. Failing in the garage is better than being 50 miles away!!
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Old Jul 24, 2017 | 07:12 PM
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Car: 1987 Z28 Camaro
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Re: Drove on Tuesday, Won't start on Wednesday

i had one fail about 800m down the road. had the push the bloody thing back to the house on a 42 degree (107f) night in summer - cold beer was well deserved.

Well done on fixing GM's "unofficial suprise killswitch"
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Old Jul 24, 2017 | 07:23 PM
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Re: Drove on Tuesday, Won't start on Wednesday

oh also be sure to coat the bottom of the stupid thing in a crapload of thermal paste
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