Has anyone bought or know of anyone using one of these Blue print engines for street strip action.
they actually have a 30,000mile or 30 month warantee, and thats a lot of 1/4 mile runs..


They are priced well and i only hope they aint got chinese no name internals,,,,apparently these are really good acording to roadkill and a few magazines but i dont know


i am still looking at the GMPP SP383turn key.


or for $10k a CNC motorsports 427 thats well over 540hp and loaded with brand name parts. And really credible reviews from reliable sources

 

im also curious for reviews. I am pricing out crate engines for next winter's engine swap. the one I want most is this:
http://www.nyesautomotive.net/427_550hp_EFI.html

looking in the 500-550 hp range and the must have's are:
forged bottom end
Dart SHP block
EFi setup Holley sniper
roller valvetrain
traditional gen1 SBC (NON LS NON LT)
able to take a 150 wet shot of nitrous occasionally

I was on the blueprint website a LOT, as well as several others. read some reviews, keep doing research. I am doing the same. I have about a year, but I am currently trying to prep the rest of the car prior to the upgrade so it will just be ready for the engine drop-in

 

People have used Blueprint with success, but I have read tons of bad reviews and horrible service warranty reviews from blueprint. I was in the market a few years ago and after reading no way. Anyone can correct flaws in a product but time will tell. Personally I wouldn't buy from them.

 

If your building a 427 SB go with a 3.875 stroke and 4.185 bore makes for a better combo when it comes to a bigger base circle cam. Reduced Base circle under .950 create a lot of pressure angle on the lifter which is tough on lifters.

That being said I will go to a .904 lifter on solid roller enignes

The SHP block will go 4.185 they need to be sonic tested to be sure there okay.

A 421 is a very common engine and have a combo that has been duplicated many times on the internet with great success.
http://www.chevelles.com/forums/13-p...o-results.html

I am working on a 427 SBC which is going to be a daily driver going with 210 AFR's and using a HYD roller. customer is not looking for a big HP deal but something with good torque and dependable. I will see what it does on the dyno when it done.

 

i saw a link somewhere where the owner of this blueprint company spoke to the media,,he looked a little suspect and spoke for 15 to 20 seconds and said nothing at all that makes me want to do buisness with them. You get shafiroff talking and he wont shut up, he is a racer,not some dude out to make a buck. There is no mention of what they use and they did say in a press release they use top quality parts,"BUT WHERE" the companies they mentioned DONT MAKE crankshafts,pistons,or conrods,lifters or the parts that make a good engine. They list the alloy heads as being simply "Aluminium performance heads" no figures no way of checking what you get no nothing.I live in Australia and these parts are primarily american parts for an american market,therefore we need to import most parts and there 35% more expensive than what you guys pay, and i havn,t seen a 350 chev block in a wrecking yard in 30 years, even 2nd hand sbc engines are getting scarce and are imported. A very good engine here would cost $13,000 to $15,000 U,S but would be a new GM bowtie or dart block Crower/Manley rotating assembly full custom roller cam and a brodix top end and assembly labour and machine work alone would set you back $2500. but its a professional build from guys with 45 years race engine experience and never had 1 failure EVER. But in saying that 20 years ago an engine like this was $30,000+
i remember sprintcars in the 70,s running methanol with 2 bolt 327,s and double hump fuellie heads and old vertex magneto,s and now a days that engine performance wise in todays terms is junk. Maybe 450HP and ready to blow up at anytime.


For me to get a crate engine from America i will save $5000 even after freight,,but the engine guys i use want to strip it and go right through from top to bottom and double check the whole thing and check quality of parts used.


BluePrint no thanks,, there is very little info and nobody will stick their neck out and say whats inside that engine from blueprint and when they say they use their own parts it means nothing.
I wouldn,t use a chinese parachute if an American one is available for a few bucks more.
My friend Darrin bought an engine from summit in 2009 for $15,000 and freighted it here,,it was a Motown 427 from World Products and only had a dyno card,,,it wouldnt run and my mate didn,t know what was inside as it had no paper work.He gave it to a guy here and they got it running but it needed a 3000 stall convertor..in a 68 vette it ran 13.2et and wouldn,t go then blew a head gasket..


my engine guy pulled it down and it was full of no name junk parts,,john re built it and put a smaller cam in it and it ran 12.98et 1 time and was sold, this engine was junk and came from summit,,had big advertisment from world products and it was junk.


it was a world products block and alloy heads and i remember it sounded lame but darrin thought it was a killer engine until reality hit him in the pocket and failure was at every corner.


I think the GMPP sp383 looks reliable and if setup well could be a real good thing.

 

I personally think that GMPP sp383 in maintainance free,drop in and turn key,, and pace performance will also run it in and run the cam in and the same sp383 gm engine was with 10 other crate engines that were fitted into a 1968 chevelle with NO CHANGES made everytime the next engine was fitted and the sp383 off the shelf ran 11.07 after a fuel leak was fixed on the actual car on its first run at 12.8et.
the 427 BIG BLOCK chev GMPP crate motor is well over 540hp and only ran .05 faster in the same car. That 430hp SP383 from GM has torque right across the board wich is a daily driver in my eyes. And if that thing can run 11.07 thats what i want and thats with a little vac sec 770 holley un touched! IT possibly wont need to be stripped before running it.
it ran 11.02

 

I'd buy a blueprint engine with confidence. People on YB use the BB with no issues and the guys from Blueprint actually have replied to a lot of threads there

 

I know 99.9% of all the chevy cranks under $1500 are possibly made in china and finished off in America..If blue print came out and said they had a factory in taiwan making world class crankshafts and they are 4340 forgings i would buy one of there engines. I cant see any info on the "alloy performance heads" or how they stack up against the base AFR heads that are pretty affordable in the scheme of things and all their numbers are out there. I i can see on paper what i am buying up against another item that has no info i will sleep better knowing what i just forked out up to $6000 on. I dont doubt their engine products and this whole engine "hot rod thing" is a personal thing we grew up with the names like Crower,Isky, Venolia, Jahns,Crager etc. we saw as kids our hero,s race with these brands and win year in year out and when blueprint gets more involved and puts their head on the chopping block like the others i mentioned have done to get out there will allways be people like me wanting to buy from them but have zero to fall back on if its only good for "what ya pay is what ya get syndrome.
I am in Australia like mentioned and everything is imported in this area and its a big call to pay $7500 for a blueprint 400 or $8200 for a dart block and brand name internals 400 from for instance CNC motorsports SD or Shafiroff NY. The $900 to $1500 extra is a very good insurance policy AND RESALE VALUE ADDED ITEM.


A 427 Shafiroff 82 camaro or a Blueprint 427 82 camaro for sale.


Anyway i hope the blueprint guy does good and sells more engines as it creates jobs and its good for everyone including the chinese or Bangladeshi machine shop/ foundry that could be making roller rockers and Crankshafts.

 

I guess where a replacement engine and a "i wanna race someone" engine is the seperation.


a worn 305 would be easy to replace with a blue print engine AND get more performance for not much money.


A guy that wants to beat up on the dude up the roads mustang will allways want that little bit more.

 

Blueprint isn't trying to compete with top tier engine builders. They make a strong, affordable package for the average joe that isn't looking to spend top tier money.

They do use Chinese products, just like everyone else out there who has a "budget" line of products, and yes they are finished in the USA.

http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/sh...ight=blueprint

Read this thread as well as others. Or just shut up and buy a top tier motor from a top tier builder.

 

Blue print isnt trying to compete with top tier engine builders but the cost isn,t much different thats what i am getting at...for the same motor,,the CNC and shafiroff crate engines with the same 450,500hp have all listed parts used and only $1500 more and i am talking the blueprint "pro series" and even there $7500 motors,,,thats a lot of money for anything let alone an unknown thing..i am not putting these guys down and i wish to buy something one day but if i am going to rip my car apart, paint the engine bay,,replace anything dirty or worn,spend a lot of time making it all nice,,, i really want a list of what i am getting,,you cant drink whisky from a bottle of wine but if the price isn,t much different really i will go the real deal.


If blueprint said to me we use eagle crank and rods {and they are cheap crap too in reality} and they have licenced mechanics or tradesman assembling their motors i will buy one today as i like the 400 and the 427... but i work in a factory 6 days a week and 10 hour days AND i got to freight this thing from America to Australia and pay import Tax on anything over $1000 about $400 ontop of the engine. Blueprint make real decent replacement engines for that tire stock engine based on price..but they are starting to advertise they do weekend racer motors for a budget and i even saw them say HARD CORE racer a few times. I doubt if i could run in the sub 11.5et class at the strip with a blueprint all year but they say you can. At our strip on a Pro meeting where folks pay $50 to get in and nitro cars are on they run 100 or so street cars between the big classes and 11.5 is the cut off..i feel for the extra $1500 bucks i can get out there and my mates can throw rotton tomato,s at me when i get my *** kicked by a 9 second 4cyl,,,,only jokin folks but its a point well made

 

I've been running a 430hp/452ftlb BluePrint 383 in my IROC for two years now and couldn't be happier with it. The shows on Velocity Channel use BluePrint engines in a lot of their builds and speak highly of them; especially on Engine Masters.

 

Thanks for the reply,,i dont doubt the reliability of these engines but their "blueprint" site is very vague and doesnt mention roller rockers etc,,but the same engine on Jegs/summit/ Pace Performance site lists roller rockers. I asked what brand if any crank/rods they use in the 400 and 427,,i got no reply but i did from jegs,, eagle or Scat they tell me. There are no flow numbers on their site in regards to the heads and i got no reply from them,,i found detailed info on another site that doesnt even sell their motors. Its a tough call from 12,000 miles away to fork out $7300 for the 427 when i dont know what i am buying.
the GM SP383 has 420hp and its all listed,,every item and lots of info on youtube about the actual motor,, the only blue print factory video i can find has a guy walking beside a conveyer looking at a motor with a smile on his face. NO engineering going on,,no assembly video,s like even a lot of the small places do... I think i could sell these blueprint engines better than they do..Get some re assurance and video,s out there,, they could even have a few engines built on you tube and a list of what goes in. Then idiots like me will buy one tomorrow. I notice they also use SEASONED blocks,,2nd hand stuff remanufactured,,i can do that.
i am still interested by price alone..