Dropping compression. New pistons or heads
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Dropping compression. New pistons or heads
Currently running 10.2:1 on a 358 with a set of trimmed down fast burns. 60cc chamber. Id like to get down to 9.5:1 or under for some forced air. What cc chamber would put me there or should i just swap slugs? Currendly running ross forged pistons. A head swap needs to be a raised port for a 1206 intake gasket to match my intake
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Re: Dropping compression. New pistons or heads
An 8cc chamber increase will drop your CR by .81.
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Re: Dropping compression. New pistons or heads
So going to a 65cc chamber with I think a .010 thicker gasket should get me close to where I think I should be? I'm unsure of the adverse effects of running a thicker gasket, or if my math is correct??
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Re: Dropping compression. New pistons or heads
You're welcome. I don't know how thick your head gasket is now, but you should try to keep the quench close to .040".
Re: Dropping compression. New pistons or heads
As an example:
4.04 x 3.48
60 cc head
5 cc piston
.040 x 4.100 gasket
.025 piston below deck
Result is a CR of 10.26:1
A 64 cc head nets 9.8
A 60 cc head with a .060 gasket nets 9.78:1
The input values are a best guess but typical SBC. Verify your piston valve relief/dome/dish volume. Going from 5 cc (2 valve reliefs) to 9 cc (which I haven't come across) drops the CR to 9.8
4.04 x 3.48
60 cc head
5 cc piston
.040 x 4.100 gasket
.025 piston below deck
Result is a CR of 10.26:1
A 64 cc head nets 9.8
A 60 cc head with a .060 gasket nets 9.78:1
The input values are a best guess but typical SBC. Verify your piston valve relief/dome/dish volume. Going from 5 cc (2 valve reliefs) to 9 cc (which I haven't come across) drops the CR to 9.8
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Re: Dropping compression. New pistons or heads
How much boost and what kind of poweradder?
low boost i’d send it as is at 10:1. I would try thicker gasket first. Ease up on tune, keep engine cool and good intercooling
High boost throw c16 in it or e85
low boost i’d send it as is at 10:1. I would try thicker gasket first. Ease up on tune, keep engine cool and good intercooling
High boost throw c16 in it or e85
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Re: Dropping compression. New pistons or heads
Gootta go back to my build sheet from a few years ago. Im pretty sure it was a.028 head gasket. I was thinkin of throwin some new afr's on whick would gain me 5cc oin the chamber. Ithimk at least 10psi intercooled. Id prefer not to swap pistons. But i will need be. Tryin to stay at 93 octane. E85 not too common around here.
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Re: Dropping compression. New pistons or heads
But like I said, there are too many variables to just guess. And I'm even guessing on the bore and stroke.
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Re: Dropping compression. New pistons or heads
It'd be tough to hit only 10.2:1 with a .028" gasket / 60 cc chamber all else being equal and standard SBC. Before you get too far you'll want to verify the values. With the above data listed a .028 gasket gets you over 10.6:1. Change the valve relief volume to 7 cc and a .028 gasket nets 10.3.
But like I said, there are too many variables to just guess. And I'm even guessing on the bore and stroke.
But like I said, there are too many variables to just guess. And I'm even guessing on the bore and stroke.
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Re: Dropping compression. New pistons or heads
On a ebl flash I never had any detonation issues on 93. Even goofin up and runnin too much timing at first
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Re: Dropping compression. New pistons or heads
If its 10.2 on a .028 gasket then go with a .040-.051 and let it eat. Not even concerned with 10 psi intercooled
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Re: Dropping compression. New pistons or heads
Id prefer to not tear the bottom end apart if possible
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