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Old Nov 13, 2019 | 01:16 AM
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Having trouble with 1991 firebird tpi 3.1 L v6 any help?

Well I bought this firebird for 1200 not that many miles the guys said it needed a alternator long story short we almost got home it suddenly stopped I kept pushing the gas pedal but no power do we ghetto towed it to my place and I've a fuel line which was leaking the fuel filter spark plugs wires it ran better after I replaced the filter and line but now everytime I can get it on and running and I press the gas pedal it completely dies.
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Old Nov 14, 2019 | 08:06 AM
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Re: Having trouble with 1991 firebird tpi 3.1 L v6 any help?

I see it's your first post, so welcome to TGO, but man you should considering re-doing your post to make it a bit more legible. Also, if you have a V6, it isn't a TPI. As for your issue, do you have an engine light on? If so, start by pulling whatever codes are stored. If you just changed the plugs and wires, I'd also go through and double check that you didn't miss-match any wires, and that they're all pushed on all the way. Does the car backfire sometimes when you try to give it gas? When it shuts off, does it start right back up? Does it idle well?
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Old Nov 14, 2019 | 09:05 AM
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Re: Having trouble with 1991 firebird tpi 3.1 L v6 any help?

It will idle very rough when I do get it on and as soon as I touch the gas it dies
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Old Nov 14, 2019 | 09:11 AM
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Re: Having trouble with 1991 firebird tpi 3.1 L v6 any help?

Check engine light? Assuming there is one, start with pulling the codes
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Old Nov 14, 2019 | 09:50 AM
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Re: Having trouble with 1991 firebird tpi 3.1 L v6 any help?

Says ses but I did the paperclip method it just flashed code 12 the whole time I'm having someone come and test the fuel pressure and hookup a tool
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Old Nov 14, 2019 | 10:23 AM
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Re: Having trouble with 1991 firebird tpi 3.1 L v6 any help?

Says ses but I did the paperclip method it just flashed code 12 the whole time I'm having someone come and test the fuel pressure and hookup a tool
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Old Nov 14, 2019 | 10:44 AM
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Re: Having trouble with 1991 firebird tpi 3.1 L v6 any help?

Is the mil on but just no codes ?
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Old Nov 14, 2019 | 01:45 PM
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Re: Having trouble with 1991 firebird tpi 3.1 L v6 any help?

Need to look at live data, but symptoms kinda line up with a CTS failure.

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Old Nov 14, 2019 | 04:22 PM
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Re: Having trouble with 1991 firebird tpi 3.1 L v6 any help?

Well apparently the mechanic said it's the fuel pump he said he could do it Sunday I need help with figuring out if I need to replace the whole fuel pump modupe or just the fuel pump itself any help
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Old Nov 14, 2019 | 04:25 PM
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Re: Having trouble with 1991 firebird tpi 3.1 L v6 any help?

Won't really know till you pull it out.

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Old Nov 15, 2019 | 01:33 PM
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Re: Having trouble with 1991 firebird tpi 3.1 L v6 any help?

Well I finnally pulled it out would you guys recommend changing just the fuel pump or the whole assembly itself? Anythoughts?
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Old Nov 15, 2019 | 02:05 PM
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Re: Having trouble with 1991 firebird tpi 3.1 L v6 any help?

I'm squinting through the internet but I can't make out your fuel pump from here. Can you hold it up closer to your modem?

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Old Nov 15, 2019 | 02:51 PM
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Re: Having trouble with 1991 firebird tpi 3.1 L v6 any help?

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I'm squinting through the internet but I can't make out your fuel pump from here. Can you hold it up closer to your modem?

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Obviously that wouldn't work, are you dumb? The pump has to be uploaded to a Word document
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Old Nov 15, 2019 | 07:22 PM
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Re: Having trouble with 1991 firebird tpi 3.1 L v6 any help?

I meant module not modem
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Old Nov 15, 2019 | 07:23 PM
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Re: Having trouble with 1991 firebird tpi 3.1 L v6 any help?

Well I changed the pump and ....... Nothing now my fuel gauge doesn't work gonna have to go back tommorow and check it out again sounds better when it cranks but no luck
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Old Nov 15, 2019 | 10:01 PM
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Re: Having trouble with 1991 firebird tpi 3.1 L v6 any help?

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Is the mil on but just no codes ?
Yes it is just on no actually code just the flashing 12 sorry for the late responsethis car frustrates meso much but I love it
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Old Nov 15, 2019 | 10:02 PM
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Re: Having trouble with 1991 firebird tpi 3.1 L v6 any help?

With the mil on and no other codes it’s sounds like the ecm is faulty.
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Old Nov 16, 2019 | 07:08 PM
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Re: Having trouble with 1991 firebird tpi 3.1 L v6 any help?

Originally Posted by Tuned Performance
With the mil on and no other codes it’s sounds like the ecm is faulty.
Do you think this could a be a diy job or would I have to hire someone and how much has anyone ever done this?
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Old Nov 16, 2019 | 08:37 PM
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Re: Having trouble with 1991 firebird tpi 3.1 L v6 any help?

Replacement of the ecm is easy.
disconnect the battery
remove the two screws that holds in the ecm holder
. The ecm case holder bracket is under the dash on the passengers side under the dash speaker.
disconnect the ecm plugs.
remove the access cover on the ecm and rock back the white and blue tabs to release the memcal.
the memcal needs to be swapped into the new ecm.
90-92 3.1l you will have a 1227730 ecm
just a guess this is causing the check engine light .
if you are in the states I have one for $65 shipped if interested send me a pm.
there is always eBay and RockAuto.com for replacement ecms.

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Old Nov 16, 2019 | 08:42 PM
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Old Dec 5, 2020 | 09:39 AM
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Re: Having trouble with 1991 firebird tpi 3.1 L v6 any help?

Hey guys UPDATE I've had many good times with this car I've decided to fully restore it and wanted to replace the floorplans........ then I noticed that the rust is on the bottom of the door frame which kinda worries m.
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Old Dec 5, 2020 | 10:55 AM
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Re: Having trouble with 1991 firebird tpi 3.1 L v6 any help?

Just get a non-rusty one. There's plenty out there. No sense messing with rust on a unibody. It will just come back.

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