Checking open/closed loop on an LG4? Did I hurt the ECM?
Checking open/closed loop on an LG4? Did I hurt the ECM?
Trying to work some bugs out of my son's '86 LG4 Firebird so we can finally get it on the road. Car has had a ton of work done to it over the past year and now that were in the home stretch, I can't seem to get the thing to run correctly. Major/important stuff we did includes:
Now that we're trying to get the tune in better shape (had a bunch of stuff come up since then), the car just doesn't seem to want to run. It appears to be running extremely rich. We did our best to set the tps, but it was all over the place so I stuck a new one from Standard in. It reads much better now so I was expecting a difference in the way the car ran. Nope. While in closed loop, the dwell reads 30, but when the car went into open loop, it jumped to 48+ and no amount of adjustment on the idle air bleed made a difference.
I keep going back to what changed since it last ran semi-right and the only thing I can come up with is jumping that ALDL. Can anyone confirm if that's a valid test on the LG4? When I got back and review now, it seems that's mentioned mostly for the TPI cars. If that was a no-no, is there any way to look/test for damage to the ECM?
Thanks.
- Carb rebuilt by Ken an Everyday performance
- New Edelbrock intake due to corrosion around coolant passages
- New timing set
- New plugs, cap, rotor
- New vacuum lines
Now that we're trying to get the tune in better shape (had a bunch of stuff come up since then), the car just doesn't seem to want to run. It appears to be running extremely rich. We did our best to set the tps, but it was all over the place so I stuck a new one from Standard in. It reads much better now so I was expecting a difference in the way the car ran. Nope. While in closed loop, the dwell reads 30, but when the car went into open loop, it jumped to 48+ and no amount of adjustment on the idle air bleed made a difference.
I keep going back to what changed since it last ran semi-right and the only thing I can come up with is jumping that ALDL. Can anyone confirm if that's a valid test on the LG4? When I got back and review now, it seems that's mentioned mostly for the TPI cars. If that was a no-no, is there any way to look/test for damage to the ECM?
Thanks.
Last edited by gw204; Mar 8, 2025 at 02:50 PM.
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Re: Checking open/closed loop on an LG4? Did I hurt the ECM?
My 88 was doing some of that when I first got it. Took a while but finally figured out the main grounding point was fried. That is a bolt on the back of the passenger side head with several wires grounded there. Doesn't take much to foul up the ECM since it controls most operations by controlling the ground circuits. Check all grounds.
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Re: Checking open/closed loop on an LG4? Did I hurt the ECM?
Did you make all 5 of these changes at once?
If so, then you are going to have one heck of a time figuring this out.
Always make only 1 change at a time.
Good luck to you.
If so, then you are going to have one heck of a time figuring this out.
Always make only 1 change at a time.
Good luck to you.
Re: Checking open/closed loop on an LG4? Did I hurt the ECM?
Then I attempted to verify O2 sensor operation by jumping A&B in the ALDL. Seems like it that is when it stopped wanting to run.
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