Tech / General Engine Is your car making a strange sound or won't start? Thinking of adding power with a new combination? Need other technical information or engine specific advice? Don't see another board for your problem? Post it here!
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: CARiD

bosch platinum or platinum 4???

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 6, 2002 | 03:27 PM
  #1  
91fbirdgta's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 430
Likes: 0
From: Bergen County, NJ
Car: 91 Firebird GTA
bosch platinum or platinum 4???

whats up guys, i wanted to get spark plugs for my car and found out that the platinum run for 1.99 and the platinum 4 run for 5.99, now I notice a HUGE difference in the price- but is there a DRASTIC difference between the 2??? which do you suggest i get???
thanks
Reply
Old Feb 6, 2002 | 04:14 PM
  #2  
dimented24x7's Avatar
Supreme Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 9,962
Likes: 5
From: Moorestown, NJ
Car: 88 Camaro SC
Engine: SFI'd 350
Transmission: TKO 500
Axle/Gears: 9-bolt w/ 3.23's
Go w/ teh standard bosch platinums... theyre good plugs and unlike the +4's, they can be gapped
Reply
Old Feb 6, 2002 | 06:48 PM
  #3  
89BlueTA's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 474
Likes: 0
From: Tecumseh,Mi,USA
Between the two I would pick the regular platinums, though I have switched from the platinums to regular NGK's which I like.

nick
Reply
Old Feb 6, 2002 | 07:03 PM
  #4  
91fbirdgta's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 430
Likes: 0
From: Bergen County, NJ
Car: 91 Firebird GTA
i appreciate the suggestions guys, i'm goin w/ the reg. platinums
Reply
Old Feb 6, 2002 | 07:47 PM
  #5  
Ukraine Train's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 1,526
Likes: 0
From: Cleveland, OH
Car: '87 Camaro LT
Engine: 355 L98
Transmission: T56
I've seen test reports on the +4s and they suck. After a while the spark begins to jump to only one sidewire (path of least resistance) which carves a trench through the insulator, after that sidewire gets burned up the spark move to the next one until all four are burned up. In the process, the four piece of insulator pie break off and the sidewire also detriorates until it's buried way down in the insulator. In short you've spent $50 on plugs that break in your engine.
Reply
Old Feb 8, 2002 | 11:11 AM
  #6  
pauls's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 90
Likes: 0
Thats a load! I,ve run Bosch 4's in 3 different cars for years. First, a 81 Monte, currently in my Explorer and my 3rd gen. They run great . Good throttle response, and long life. Especially nice in a vehicle thats hard to get at plugs.
Reply
Old Feb 8, 2002 | 11:40 AM
  #7  
Ukraine Train's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 1,526
Likes: 0
From: Cleveland, OH
Car: '87 Camaro LT
Engine: 355 L98
Transmission: T56
I'm just telling you what the report said, pictures don't lie.
Reply
Old Feb 8, 2002 | 12:28 PM
  #8  
silentneko's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 421
Likes: 0
From: coconut creek, fl, usa
I tried the bosch 4's they aren't very good. my rapidfires were much better and gave smoother power, plus only cost like $1.89. $5.99 for a plug is criminal, what a waste of money.
Reply
Old Feb 8, 2002 | 01:24 PM
  #9  
82camaro's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Nov 1999
Posts: 2,860
Likes: 3
From: NE
Car: 82 camaro SC
Engine: 350
Transmission: 700r4
The standard old ac delco's will work just as good. If you want longer life go with the platinum.
Reply
Old Feb 8, 2002 | 01:48 PM
  #10  
Brian K's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Jul 1999
Posts: 1,218
Likes: 1
From: Orlando,Fl, USA
I look ast it like this, I change my plugs every year.. Why waste 2 dollars or more per plug.. I use stock AC delco's gapped slightly bigger. It would be better to index your plugs instead of +4's or splitifres..

STOCK PLUGS RULE....
Reply
Old Feb 8, 2002 | 01:53 PM
  #11  
ChevyLuva3's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 724
Likes: 0
From: W, NJ, US
Which is better to get, Platinum Professional plugs or Rapidfire Platinum plugs? Are they the same plugs?
Reply
Old Feb 8, 2002 | 02:11 PM
  #12  
silentneko's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 421
Likes: 0
From: coconut creek, fl, usa
rapidfires are great plugs, I've used them in 3 cars and never had a problem
Reply
Old Feb 8, 2002 | 02:32 PM
  #13  
FoREEL's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 35
Likes: 0
From: B-Town
electricty travels the shortest distance between two points
Reply
Old Feb 8, 2002 | 04:59 PM
  #14  
Little GTA's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 246
Likes: 0
From: Destin, FL
I have used the +4s...I took them out...you want them?


When have you ever seen lightning strike in a perfectly straight line???
Reply
Old Feb 8, 2002 | 05:02 PM
  #15  
85transamtpi's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 1,238
Likes: 0
From: Chitown
Heres one more vote for good old delco rapidfires. In my opinion the best performing spark plug out there for our cars.
Reply
Old Feb 9, 2002 | 06:05 PM
  #16  
87_Camaro's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 556
Likes: 0
From: tucson AZ, USA
delco rapid fires are the way to go.
Reply
Old Feb 9, 2002 | 06:47 PM
  #17  
Vader's Avatar
Moderator
25 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jan 2000
Posts: 19,655
Likes: 309
Originally posted by Little GTA
I have used the +4s...I took them out...you want them?

When have you ever seen lightning strike in a perfectly straight line???
ROFLMFAO! Great, dude! I couldn't have said it better myself, but not nearly as funny...

That covers it.
Reply
Old Feb 9, 2002 | 08:19 PM
  #18  
soulbounder's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 1,787
Likes: 20
From: Tomball, TX
Car: 89 TTA
Engine: Turbo 3.8
Transmission: 200R4
When I bought my 91 it had +4s in it. Didn't run bad or anything. Changed to regular AC Delco and it ran the same. I just won 8 free Bosch Platinum +4s matched to my car and they are still sitting on my desk. Maybe I'll put them in my car again just because they were free but I'd say stick with Delco.
Reply
Old Feb 9, 2002 | 08:53 PM
  #19  
Vader's Avatar
Moderator
25 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jan 2000
Posts: 19,655
Likes: 309
Bosch makes wonderful fuel systems - almost as good as Rochester (if you doubt that, look at their mechanical injection system based on the "stolen" 327 RamJet system from 1964 - they offered them on Porsches in 1970-1978). Their electronics and electrical items are nothing to get all woody over, however. They are adequate, but not premier. Their spark plugs aren't bad, but there are others that are much better.

NGK has much better ceramics and electrodes. NGK has an excellent ceramics program, which is second to none. Many of you may have noticed that I'm not a big fan of our far-eastern competitors and their manufactured products, but I have to give credit where it is due. NGKs are very good spark plugs. They STILL don't offer a spark plug that meets FAA standards, but they probably could if they wanted to. That's likely more than I could say for Bosch, and I'm a second generation German immigrant son. I can't believe Bosch would even market such a snake-oil product as the +4, considering the risk to their reputation.

And Auburn doesn't offer plugs for the automotive market. Only Champion makes FAA-approved and automotive plugs, and they have a lot more experience in spark plugs than anyone else on the planet. This means they have the technology and ability to produce a very good offering.

I'll stick with the Champions for now. When Bosch GMBh starts offering sets like this, I'll be more attentive:
Attached Thumbnails bosch platinum or platinum 4???-champion_rel37b.jpg  
Reply
Old Feb 9, 2002 | 11:01 PM
  #20  
Ukraine Train's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 1,526
Likes: 0
From: Cleveland, OH
Car: '87 Camaro LT
Engine: 355 L98
Transmission: T56
Vader, what do you think about Champions? I've never used them because I've heard they're garbage. I've heard their technology dates back to the 40s.
Reply
Old Feb 9, 2002 | 11:42 PM
  #21  
SLP-GTA's Avatar
Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 380
Likes: 0
From: northwest
Car: 1991 Formula (sold)
AC is the best for GM cars, but Im installing a set of NGK because they were recommended by Nitrous Express
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
amargari
Engine/Drivetrain/Suspension Parts for Sale
6
Nov 10, 2015 02:09 PM
Nervous2
Firebirds for Sale
2
Oct 8, 2015 10:53 PM
HoosierinWA
Tech / General Engine
5
Oct 7, 2015 10:15 AM
AmorgetRS
Electronics
6
Sep 28, 2015 09:33 PM
scottmoyer
Camaros for Sale
3
Sep 7, 2015 07:06 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:59 AM.