Tech / General Engine Is your car making a strange sound or won't start? Thinking of adding power with a new combination? Need other technical information or engine specific advice? Don't see another board for your problem? Post it here!
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: CARiD

Superchargers and engine vacuum

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 7, 2002 | 07:56 PM
  #1  
89Iroc-ZL98's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Jan 2000
Posts: 105
Likes: 0
From: CT
Car: 1989 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
Engine: 5.7L TPI
Transmission: WC T-5
Superchargers and engine vacuum

Can someone tell me how superchargers effect engine vacuum?
Reply
Old Feb 8, 2002 | 04:10 AM
  #2  
Jza's Avatar
Jza
Moderator
 
Joined: Jul 1999
Posts: 4,384
Likes: 2
From: Tulsa, OK
There's positive atmospheric pressure inside the intake, but there's still vaccuum on the intake side of the SC.
Reply
Old Feb 8, 2002 | 11:32 AM
  #3  
89Iroc-ZL98's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Jan 2000
Posts: 105
Likes: 0
From: CT
Car: 1989 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
Engine: 5.7L TPI
Transmission: WC T-5
So what effect does this have on sensors that measure engine manifold pressure, or vacuum, for timing and other adjustments. What about equipment (brake booster, ....) that uses engine vacuum?

I'm just trying to build a better understanding of the effect.

Thanks.
Reply
Old Feb 8, 2002 | 12:56 PM
  #4  
89BlueTA's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 474
Likes: 0
From: Tecumseh,Mi,USA
I will assume you are talking about the map sensor, it would need to see the boost so that it could add more fuel and take out a little timing. I doubt you will need the brakes very often when you are boosting the engine, except maybe for a burnout. In cars that are factory equipped with superchargers they use check ***** in the vacuum lines so that they can only pull vacuum and not boost. you should have zero vacuum at full throttle, so boost is going to have about the same effect. Hope this helps!

nick
Reply
Old Feb 8, 2002 | 01:41 PM
  #5  
Enkil's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 886
Likes: 0
From: Raleigh, NC, USA
aye, and when you're hitting the brakes, the throttle blades are closed and there's no boost, so you've still got the vacuum to run the power brakes.
Reply
Old Feb 8, 2002 | 08:01 PM
  #6  
Ozzy88GTA's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 405
Likes: 0
From: Gulf Coast
Car: 1988 Trans Am GTA
Engine: 5.0 TPI
Transmission: TH700-R4
Axle/Gears: 3.27
If you look hard enough in the driver side fender well there is a plastic ball. That is a vacuum reservoir connected to the plenum. It has a check valve to hold vacuum for the brakes.
As far as the supercharger, the boost at part throttle should not affect the MAP reading. Remember that at part throttle there is a higher pressure behind the throttle body so there is always some vacuum in the plenum. At WOT the system goes into open loop anyways and the injectors start dumping a lot of fuel in the ports.
I understand some superchargers don't build-up until they get to past 3000 RPM.
On the other hand I might be wrong. I had seen a post by Vader on this subject.

Oz
Reply
Old Feb 8, 2002 | 08:58 PM
  #7  
GreenProStreet's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 390
Likes: 0
From: Ottawa, Ontario
Originally posted by Enkil
aye, and when you're hitting the brakes, the throttle blades are closed and there's no boost, so you've still got the vacuum to run the power brakes.
Dont try to hell and toe downshift then! Roots type superchargers inrease vacuum. Have you seen the Carb Vortech system? Carbs run on vacuum, not boost. They had to reverse the whole set up. This is for the idiot who will spend 700 dollars on a carb and reverser, while he could get better performance with efi!
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Infested
Tech / General Engine
3
May 22, 2018 11:56 PM
theshackle
Tech / General Engine
4
Mar 5, 2017 06:37 PM
mdtoren
TPI
12
Aug 23, 2015 12:52 PM
bradleydeanuhl
DFI and ECM
4
Aug 12, 2015 11:48 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:24 PM.