Tech / General Engine Is your car making a strange sound or won't start? Thinking of adding power with a new combination? Need other technical information or engine specific advice? Don't see another board for your problem? Post it here!
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: CARiD

NHRA - Fuel lines

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 18, 2002 | 09:51 PM
  #1  
Alan84TA's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Jul 1999
Posts: 317
Likes: 0
From: Raytown, MO
NHRA - Fuel lines

Can I get in trouble with tech / NHRA rules for having more than 12'' of rubber fuel line in the engine bay? I've heard this may be the case... I need to reroute them because they are too close to my headers and I'm getting vapor lock... I can't really find any "good" place to run them... this is pissing me off......
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2002 | 02:28 AM
  #2  
Guest
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
I have never had anyone actually check that. I suppose if the tech guy is ****, or you have a really fast car, that they will say something. Im sure though if you have 5 feet of rubber hose spiraled up and laying on the intake they will say something.
Try putting some insulation on the hard line, they make stuff for that.
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2002 | 04:31 AM
  #3  
ronterry's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Nov 1999
Posts: 1,507
Likes: 0
From: Elizabeth, Colorado
Car: '94 Corvette
Engine: LT1
Transmission: 4L60E
Does the rule book say anything about the use of braided hose ?

You might can get some Russell Proflex, and not lose sleep.
If you got a few extra bucks use the AN fitting, but let me warn you! These fitting, and hoses get addicting to use, and will make you bankrupt in no time

If you’re not in the mood to deal with braided lines, or fittings you can get some aluminum line, and use couplings.

Ron
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2002 | 04:45 AM
  #4  
ede's Avatar
ede
TGO Supporter
 
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 14,811
Likes: 1
From: Jackson County
sure will, 12" is the max. i've never saw anyone get bounced in the inspection for being 1/4" over, but i have seen guys not pass tech for having too much rubber line, like 16" in one piece. use the braided steel and you'll be ok.
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2002 | 07:02 AM
  #5  
Zepher's Avatar
Supreme Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2000
Posts: 7,964
Likes: 4
From: Norfolk, VA. USA
Car: 86 Trans Am, 88 Formula
Engine: 95LT4, 305TPI
Transmission: T56, T5
I have 4 feet of rubber fuel line on my car. 2 feet for feed and 2 for return hooked up to the harline that goes into the fuel rail.
I'll eventually replace it with hardline.
I hope they don't say anything at the track next month since my car isn't all that fast.
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2002 | 10:09 AM
  #6  
camaro6spd's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 2,463
Likes: 0
From: Annandale,NJ
rubber line with ~46 LBs of fuel pressure. I wouldn't trust it.
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2002 | 11:04 AM
  #7  
88 427 Camaro's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jul 1999
Posts: 931
Likes: 0
From: Mpls, MN USA
Car: 88 Camaro
Engine: 427 BBC
Transmission: T400
In the engine bay area, I would run all braided line (which is legal) instead of hard line. The braided will insulate the fuel from heat much better than the hard line. I even tried insulating the hard line and finally went back to braided. No more vapor lock

Miles

PS Yes, over 12 inches of rubber (not braided) will not pass tech and you should never use rubber with 40+ psi.
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2002 | 12:14 PM
  #8  
Alan84TA's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Jul 1999
Posts: 317
Likes: 0
From: Raytown, MO
I'm carbed so the PSI is not an issue...
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2002 | 03:23 PM
  #9  
james_85Z28's Avatar
Supreme Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 1,629
Likes: 0
From: Seattle, WA
Car: 2003 Porsche C4S
Engine: 3.6L
Transmission: 6-speed Manual
12" limit - what if the fuel lines came that way from the factory and you run high twelves?
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2002 | 04:25 PM
  #10  
johnsjj2's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 1,346
Likes: 2
From: Monticello, IN USA
Car: 1991 Z-28
Engine: 350
Transmission: T-5 (gonna buy the farm)
Yes, I agree with the last post. My car had more than 12" of rubber line from the factory. From the frame rail up to the alternator, I still have the stock rubber fuel line. Now, if braided steel is okay, what about hose along the line of Push-Loc, or Twist-Loc and the use of AN fittings?
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2002 | 06:11 PM
  #11  
ede's Avatar
ede
TGO Supporter
 
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 14,811
Likes: 1
From: Jackson County
there's a damn good chance your factory lines are actually rubberized braided steel. if not the rule book says 12" of rubber, for vibration connections mostly.
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2002 | 06:39 PM
  #12  
Zepher's Avatar
Supreme Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2000
Posts: 7,964
Likes: 4
From: Norfolk, VA. USA
Car: 86 Trans Am, 88 Formula
Engine: 95LT4, 305TPI
Transmission: T56, T5
Originally posted by 88 427 Camaro


PS Yes, over 12 inches of rubber (not braided) will not pass tech and you should never use rubber with 40+ psi.
Oh, now I gotta spend even more money.

I'm running 42psi.
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2002 | 07:52 PM
  #13  
james_85Z28's Avatar
Supreme Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 1,629
Likes: 0
From: Seattle, WA
Car: 2003 Porsche C4S
Engine: 3.6L
Transmission: 6-speed Manual
I'm sure the stock TPI rubber lines are more heavily reinforced lines as opposed to the low pressure rubber lines that are commonly bought at the parts stores.
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2002 | 08:02 PM
  #14  
Zepher's Avatar
Supreme Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2000
Posts: 7,964
Likes: 4
From: Norfolk, VA. USA
Car: 86 Trans Am, 88 Formula
Engine: 95LT4, 305TPI
Transmission: T56, T5
The 4 feet runs of rubber I am using are high pressure transmission cooler lines. Someone said that they should work, I hope the gas doesn't rot them out and my lines burst or my injectors clog.
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2002 | 08:15 PM
  #15  
johnsjj2's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 1,346
Likes: 2
From: Monticello, IN USA
Car: 1991 Z-28
Engine: 350
Transmission: T-5 (gonna buy the farm)
If the pressure is the main issue, the Earls, Aeroquip, or Russell push on type hose is rated at 250psi., and 250*. Oh well, the direction I'm heading right now, I don't think I will have to worry about tech inspection.
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2002 | 09:03 PM
  #16  
F-BIRD'88's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 6,111
Likes: 53
From: Ontario, Canada
Car: 1988 Firebird S/E
Engine: 406Ci Vortec SBC
Transmission: TH-350/3500stall
Axle/Gears: 7.5" Auburn 4.10 Posi-Traction
Your car can burn up in a fuel fire just as fast as a "fast car".
The 12" rubber rule is there for a reason. Steel hard line, some fittings and a bender aren't that expensive. If all that rubber hose
is on the pickup side of a fuel pump, it tends to get sucked shut
starving the motor for fuel about halfway down the track. The heat from the nearby exhaust weakens the rubber hose too.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Frozer!!!
Camaros for Sale
35
Jan 19, 2024 04:55 PM
theshackle
Tech / General Engine
4
Mar 5, 2017 06:37 PM
Andrew6.688
TPI
10
Dec 13, 2015 10:59 AM
AkDrifted
Engine/Drivetrain/Suspension Parts for Sale
6
Aug 17, 2015 07:45 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:52 PM.