View Poll Results: What's your emissions level-of-pain?
Visual only



4
5.88%
Sniffer only



7
10.29%
Dyno & sniffer, no visual



9
13.24%
Visual, dyno, sniffer, gas cap, et al



23
33.82%
What - me worry?



27
39.71%
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What's your emissions level-of-pain?
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From: Littleton, CO USA
Car: 82 Berlinetta/57 Bel Air
Engine: L92/LQ4 (both w/4" stroke)
Transmission: 4L80E/4L80E
Axle/Gears: 12B-3.73/9"-3.89
What's your emissions level-of-pain?
Since the issue often comes up (TPI or TBI to carb, CC to non-CC, headers, what cam, eliminating cat, eliminating A.I.R., eliminating EGR, no cross-over passages, etc., etc., etc.), thought it might be valuable to find out what percentage of us actually have to worry about it, and to what degree.
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From: northeast ohio
Car: 2000 astro
Engine: 4.3
Transmission: A4
Axle/Gears: 7.5 with 3.42 gears
To my knowledge, we don't have emissions here at all.
five7, Silly me, I forgot to say that I'm from Ohio. Cleveland, Columbus, Akron, and Cincy all have emissions AFAIK
five7, Silly me, I forgot to say that I'm from Ohio. Cleveland, Columbus, Akron, and Cincy all have emissions AFAIK
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From: San Jose, CA
Car: 2002 Z28
Engine: LS1
Transmission: 4L60E
Axle/Gears: 3.23
CA sucks, i still havent passed, gonna try some tricks to lower my fuel pressure, I HOPE IT WORKS. i dont wanna spend money for emissions, i wanna spend it on performance.
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From: Tucson,AZ,USA
Car: Junk
Engine: Junk with nitrous
Transmission: Junk with gears
Arizona is stiff but EASILY cheated
I used to work for em so I know thier whole shpeel. Visual check for 3 check valves and connected hoses, on check vavle per header/manifold and one check valve down to the cat. Other than that anything goes.....such as no EGR and such. Also a dyno/sniffer....not hard to pass with a carb, especially since my GF's camaro has an edle. 600 on it and I just swap it onto my Grand PRix and Firebird when its time to go...cuz edlebrocks were practically MADE for passing muscle car's through emissions
Vacuum leak helps too.....as does retarding the timing to the point of glowing red headers....Emissions is still a bitch even tho its easy to cheat however.
Chris
I used to work for em so I know thier whole shpeel. Visual check for 3 check valves and connected hoses, on check vavle per header/manifold and one check valve down to the cat. Other than that anything goes.....such as no EGR and such. Also a dyno/sniffer....not hard to pass with a carb, especially since my GF's camaro has an edle. 600 on it and I just swap it onto my Grand PRix and Firebird when its time to go...cuz edlebrocks were practically MADE for passing muscle car's through emissions
Vacuum leak helps too.....as does retarding the timing to the point of glowing red headers....Emissions is still a bitch even tho its easy to cheat however. Chris
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From: San Rafael, CA
Car: 1988 Trans Am GTA
Engine: 5.7L TPI (L98)
Transmission: 700RJunk
We have to put all that pointless BS here in CA. The only way my old '87 LG4 formula passed was because i had a friend at a dealership who hooked me up with smog certs. Sucks because he doesn't work there no more so my 2 rides have to comply with all that stuff. It also means i'm gonna have to work within the limits of the tpi system because as far as i know none of the aftermarket tpi intakes, or a custom LT1 intake, are smog legal (EGR), and i have a very limited and expensive selection of smog-legal headers to choose from. If they want to have clean-running cars, they should just do a sniffer test. Ultimately, its what goes out the tailpipe that really matters............
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Car: 1989 Wellcraft Scarab III
Engine: Twin 454's
Axle/Gears: Twin Mercruiser Bravo I's
In my area there is no emissions (Northern Neck, Virginia). That being said, I'm concerned about emissions because I believe that at some point the Liberal Eviromentalists will force it throughout Virginia. With that in mind I try to keep all of my cars in lock step with the emission areas of Virginia so that when the hammer falls I won't get hit.
It is only in certin countys here in texas. My county is due next year to be under the choping block of the epa man. It really sucks to have the eimssions tester at the airport and about a mile down wind of one of the largest eastman/kodac plants in the country
. The tester is about 3 miles out of town. total bull shizat, o well I know people that will pass me and if not I will retard the timing and create one heck of a vacuum leak
. The tester is about 3 miles out of town. total bull shizat, o well I know people that will pass me and if not I will retard the timing and create one heck of a vacuum leak
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Los Angeles Basin. You guess.
As for legal TPI stuff, the Superram is legal here, they have an EO number. PLEASE keep in mind even though you have stickers, if the car does not pass the sniffer check, you will fail. Its for visual only.
That said, if they dont see it and you pass the sniffer, you pass the test as well
Keep that in mind too.
As for legal TPI stuff, the Superram is legal here, they have an EO number. PLEASE keep in mind even though you have stickers, if the car does not pass the sniffer check, you will fail. Its for visual only.
That said, if they dont see it and you pass the sniffer, you pass the test as well
Keep that in mind too. Supreme Member

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Car: 99 Formula
Engine: LS1
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: 342
At home in my county they have the sniffer, gas cap, visual and dyno. Same state where I go to school in that county no emissions at all.
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From: Monticello, IN USA
Car: 1991 Z-28
Engine: 350
Transmission: T-5 (gonna buy the farm)
I have heard that 12 counties in northern Indiana have them, but not in mine. I don't look for them to finish off the state anytime soon. There are too many farmers that would go under trying to get their highway trucks to comply. And if they did find a little way around them, I would be talking to the same people.
Smog Pump
I've been thinking about taking the Air pump off the belt & hooking it to an electric motor and tucking it away somewhere under the hood. With a switch on the dash and a tube into to the exaust, I could turn it on and dump large amounts of fresh air into the tail pipe, lowering the percent of hydro-carbs & CO1.
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From: Columbus, Ohio
Car: 92 Camaro RS
Engine: 350 TPI
Transmission: T5 manual
Originally posted by robertg
To my knowledge, we don't have emissions here at all.
five7, Silly me, I forgot to say that I'm from Ohio. Cleveland, Columbus, Akron, and Cincy all have emissions AFAIK
To my knowledge, we don't have emissions here at all.
five7, Silly me, I forgot to say that I'm from Ohio. Cleveland, Columbus, Akron, and Cincy all have emissions AFAIK
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From: Aridzona
Car: `86 SS / `87 SS
Engine: L69 w/ TPI on top / 305 4bbl
Transmission: `95 T56 \ `88 200-4R
Originally posted by 8Mike9
You missed one...my area in Ca. is visual, functional and sniffer...no dyno.
You missed one...my area in Ca. is visual, functional and sniffer...no dyno.
) but they're usually pretty sane.Wish I could find my scan of my 86's test when it was last tested. They listed it as 5700cc LOL... I can't help but stand there while they test it and smile like a freak and I think they get nervous and wonder what the hell is in it w/ that lope
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From: Littleton, CO USA
Car: 82 Berlinetta/57 Bel Air
Engine: L92/LQ4 (both w/4" stroke)
Transmission: 4L80E/4L80E
Axle/Gears: 12B-3.73/9"-3.89
Originally posted by 8Mike9
You missed one...my area in Ca. is visual, functional and sniffer...no dyno.
You missed one...my area in Ca. is visual, functional and sniffer...no dyno.
Too late to modify, I guess.
I'm finding these results interesting. I expected a much higher percentage of no inspections/testing than this - more like >50%. Although this isn't a "scientific" poll, it is indicative of the demographics of our country, that population tends to be concentrated. It isn't hard to see why we have air quality problems - whether the measures taken make sense is another topic...
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