electric engines?
electric engines?
When i think of this happening to cars i see all cars going no faster than 65mph and running 1/4 times in the 20 sec to 30 sec call me stupid but thats what i see happening.
Anyways say if we end up up going electric or 1/2 gas 1/2 electric is it possible to still create a Fast 13 second sports car or will the muscle be gone for good? I was just wondering if it is at all possible or will we guys be screwed?
Anyways say if we end up up going electric or 1/2 gas 1/2 electric is it possible to still create a Fast 13 second sports car or will the muscle be gone for good? I was just wondering if it is at all possible or will we guys be screwed?
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You should like this Electric 1985 Camaro It has a top speed of 120mph. Here is some more info on it. more info
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That was a neat project, but pretty crude - especially with using a geared transmission. 
Actually, a more efficient method would be to place an AC servomotor at each wheel, with an inverter for each wheel motor, controlled by a central processor. Dynamic full-time AWD and steering assist/traction control/braking could be achieved by regulating each of the servomotors in an accel/coat/dynamic brake.regeneration mode on an individual basis.
This is a very plauseable, deliverable system. Such a vehicle would have infinite torque control (up to the peak output of the motors) and could theoretically roast all four tires simultaneously (with an adequate power source). Battery technology needs to improve before such a system is viable, but it's getting very close. A supplemental fuel cell generator would make the system very independent of centralizd power sources (like having to plug it in every night to charge).
Don't hold your breath too long - it's on the way, and it could be very impressive in terms of performance. I would advise any "gear-heads" that aren't fluent in electrical theory to brush up quickly, since you may be left in the dust without it.
GM should be at the forefront of this technology, since they have more experience with electromotive traction motors and controls than anyone else on the planet. Their EV-1 is just a test bed. GM Coach Division has been using electric motors at the wheels on OTR busses for decades now, whether you were aware of that or not. The same is true for GM Locomotive Division. The big friggin' diesel engine on freight and passenger train locomotive only turns a generator, not the traction wheels. Those are all done with electric traction motors, and they produce enough dead-flat torque to start a million ton train moving from a stop, and then keep it moving all the way to 90+ MPH. Fast? Powerful? Torquey? Maybe, but not if Honda gets involved. They are "newbies" in the technology.

Actually, a more efficient method would be to place an AC servomotor at each wheel, with an inverter for each wheel motor, controlled by a central processor. Dynamic full-time AWD and steering assist/traction control/braking could be achieved by regulating each of the servomotors in an accel/coat/dynamic brake.regeneration mode on an individual basis.
This is a very plauseable, deliverable system. Such a vehicle would have infinite torque control (up to the peak output of the motors) and could theoretically roast all four tires simultaneously (with an adequate power source). Battery technology needs to improve before such a system is viable, but it's getting very close. A supplemental fuel cell generator would make the system very independent of centralizd power sources (like having to plug it in every night to charge).
Don't hold your breath too long - it's on the way, and it could be very impressive in terms of performance. I would advise any "gear-heads" that aren't fluent in electrical theory to brush up quickly, since you may be left in the dust without it.
GM should be at the forefront of this technology, since they have more experience with electromotive traction motors and controls than anyone else on the planet. Their EV-1 is just a test bed. GM Coach Division has been using electric motors at the wheels on OTR busses for decades now, whether you were aware of that or not. The same is true for GM Locomotive Division. The big friggin' diesel engine on freight and passenger train locomotive only turns a generator, not the traction wheels. Those are all done with electric traction motors, and they produce enough dead-flat torque to start a million ton train moving from a stop, and then keep it moving all the way to 90+ MPH. Fast? Powerful? Torquey? Maybe, but not if Honda gets involved. They are "newbies" in the technology.
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Hey i go to school there at the University of Idaho as a Mechanical Engineering student. I have seen that car in person and have even seen it drving on the street. Currently the ME students are building a 2002 Ford Explorer hybrid. Last year we built a 2001 Suburban. We also build F-1 racers with 125cc honda motorcycle motors, and Snowmobiles with foour stroke BWM engines. Right now in class i am building a stirling engine.
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ME LEIGH, I'm working on that too!! I was on the ZEBURBAN team here at Virginia Tech last year, and sometimes help w/ the explorer this year. I'm in Computer Engineering however, but I got into the mechanical aspects as well. Just thought it was pretty cool that someone else on this board is working on that
. I may get into the F1 team next year, I've been helping them weld together parts of an aluminum intake.
. I may get into the F1 team next year, I've been helping them weld together parts of an aluminum intake. Trending Topics
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Well no kiding theres no such thing as an electric engine, its just a relative term for people that don't know any better.
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Vader you never cease to amaze me. :hail: What are you waiting for? Forget your 200mph sedan project.
A modern electric motor driven thirdgen designed by you would make you ruler of the universe, not just a galaxy far far away....... :hail: Vader :hail: Vader :hail: Vader
A modern electric motor driven thirdgen designed by you would make you ruler of the universe, not just a galaxy far far away....... :hail: Vader :hail: Vader :hail: Vader Yeah. What Vader said. Actually, electric motors are great at producing torque over an rpm range. There are all kinds of benefits to their use, but the power source seems to be the limiting factor. Now that I think about it, isn't there an electric "Top Fuel"ish car out there? Nevermind. http://www.wurts.net/electrifiedmotorsports/
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