Are LT1's slow?
Are LT1's slow?
My friend has a 97 TA with the 6 speed, I belive it is stock. He is an alright driver. What do they run in the 1/4?
I have a 82 Z with 350, edelbrock performer intake and 750 carb, 3947041 heads, comp cams xtream energy 268 , hedman shorties and hedman y pipe, 3" exaust, Turbo 350 tranny, stage 2 shift kit and 2500 stall, and a posi with 3.42s
what do you think Ill run?
Digger
I have a 82 Z with 350, edelbrock performer intake and 750 carb, 3947041 heads, comp cams xtream energy 268 , hedman shorties and hedman y pipe, 3" exaust, Turbo 350 tranny, stage 2 shift kit and 2500 stall, and a posi with 3.42s
what do you think Ill run?
Digger
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No they are not slow. If his Trans Am has ram air it has 305hp, if not it's got 285hp and they should do the 1/4 in the high 13's but they can get in the 12's n/a without lifting a valve cover.
I have to agree those engines have alot of potential just with mass air flow sensors and other stupid little things liek exhaust and that engine will FLY. I say you guys shoudl race tosee who wins. I think you will if he doesn't know what he is doing but I think you two will have alot of fun
LT1's have gotten a bad rap lately.
Really they are GREAT motors. With minor bolt ons they can be running very low 13's consistantly. They also like a little nitrous. They are a huge improvement over L98's, they just look bad compared to LS1's.
-Doug
Really they are GREAT motors. With minor bolt ons they can be running very low 13's consistantly. They also like a little nitrous. They are a huge improvement over L98's, they just look bad compared to LS1's.
-Doug
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The LT1 is still preferred in the aftermarket because it's been around longer and more aftermarket parts are available. A Camaro performance magazine did a shootout of the LS1 vs. LT1. The LS1 got the vote for the better motor but still needs more time for the aftermarket to develop
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Car: 99 WS6 / 00 SS / 11 CTS-V / 13 300
Engine: LS1 / LS1 / LSA / 5.7 Hemi
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Axle/Gears: 3.23 / 3.42 Auburn / 3.23 / 2.62
I bought my LT1 over an LS1 for 3 reasons:
1) 8 individual coils scare the hell outta me...can you say nightmares down the road??
2) Has GM ever made ANYTHING out of aluminum that either a) did not have some sort of gasket leak or b) did not crack? No, they haven't!!
3) I liked the idea of having the last 350 ever put in a production car
I sell Olds and Pontiacs, and I have driven tons of LS1 cars...at least 15. And none ever had the low end grunt the LT1 can put out. Over 3500, the LS1 has the edge, no question. But for the way 90% of us drive, the LT1 is not inferior in street driving.
Sure, LT1s have their weak points...Opti Spark ignitions and intake leaks being the main two. But overall, its just a sold, bulletproof, powerful SBC. How could you not love it? And its true...bolt ons alone will have you running high-12s/low-13s.
Mine's staying stock though...think it might be worth something down the road
1) 8 individual coils scare the hell outta me...can you say nightmares down the road??
2) Has GM ever made ANYTHING out of aluminum that either a) did not have some sort of gasket leak or b) did not crack? No, they haven't!!
3) I liked the idea of having the last 350 ever put in a production car

I sell Olds and Pontiacs, and I have driven tons of LS1 cars...at least 15. And none ever had the low end grunt the LT1 can put out. Over 3500, the LS1 has the edge, no question. But for the way 90% of us drive, the LT1 is not inferior in street driving.
Sure, LT1s have their weak points...Opti Spark ignitions and intake leaks being the main two. But overall, its just a sold, bulletproof, powerful SBC. How could you not love it? And its true...bolt ons alone will have you running high-12s/low-13s.
Mine's staying stock though...think it might be worth something down the road
Jason,
8 coils scare you, but optispark doesnt?!?
Anyhoo, LT1's are great and in stock form will FEEL a ton faster than LS1's.
Back to the original post,
Stock LT1 M6's run very low 14's stock. With an awesome driver who isnt scared to burn up his clutch they can pull a high 13. Your combo seems like it should be at least somewhere in the mid 13's so I give you the race by a good margin. Get a good launch and you'll have this one in the bag.
-Doug
8 coils scare you, but optispark doesnt?!?
Anyhoo, LT1's are great and in stock form will FEEL a ton faster than LS1's.
Back to the original post,
Stock LT1 M6's run very low 14's stock. With an awesome driver who isnt scared to burn up his clutch they can pull a high 13. Your combo seems like it should be at least somewhere in the mid 13's so I give you the race by a good margin. Get a good launch and you'll have this one in the bag.
-Doug
just like any other engine, LT1's are great but hav their weeknesses. I hate the friggen opti-spark, its the biggest peice of trash GM has made. that is the main thing I hate about the engine. but everything else I aboslutely love. and like some other guys said, it absolutely loves bolt ons. with the mods Ive got in my sig, Im running very low 13's, possibly close to 13.0 Ive never taken it to the track but Ive got the speeds for low 13's. I raced an LS1 a while back that had exhaust and intake lid. I think we were both surprised, I jumped him off the line by almost 2 lengths, and had him through 2nd gear. but as soon as we hit 3rd gear he started pulling by me, and beat me by about 1-2 lengths, it was a great race though. but like everyone else knows they have no low end grunt. they are turds off the line. oh yeah, and he had tires, Im running half bald yokohamas so I couldnt really even launch. its great though, Ive surprised quite a few people
When I was bone stock a guy with a 95 T/A with long tubes and a cold air raced me and he barely pulled away. I was pretty impressed. I raced the guy again the other day...outcome wasn't the same. :nono:
Monkie,
What is it with you? You come on here trying to start crap with us.....because you have a Mustang, You need to get a life and grow up, Your car may be alittle fast but not too fast one of these days someone will out run you so bad you won't know what to say.........BTW I will be having a talk to the other MODS about banning you.
P.S. I am with MSS when he said your pissing him off......Your starting to **** me off very badly.
What is it with you? You come on here trying to start crap with us.....because you have a Mustang, You need to get a life and grow up, Your car may be alittle fast but not too fast one of these days someone will out run you so bad you won't know what to say.........BTW I will be having a talk to the other MODS about banning you.
P.S. I am with MSS when he said your pissing him off......Your starting to **** me off very badly.
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From: Edmond, OK, USA
Car: 87 IROC
Engine: 305 TPI going to LT1
Transmission: 5spd
Stock LS1 Dyno with just a lid.
http://www.evilface.com/cofba/dyno/hakan.JPG
1995 LT1
2 Chamber Flowmaster Catback, March Performance Underdrive Crank Pulley, MSD 6AL Ignition Box. MSD Blaster Coil, MSD Wiring Hraness, Bosch +4 Platinum Plugs, Taylor Pro Race 409 Wires(blue), 3" LS1 Aluminum Driveshaft, GM 1LE Tranny Mount, Throttle Body Coolant Bypass, Hypertech 160 Thermo, LT4 Knock Module, Ultra Z Ram Air Box
Lt1 Ram Air Mod, Ported Mass Air Sensor, Holley Powershot Air Fitler, Silencer Cone Removed, AIR Pump Line Removed From Intake, Off Road Pipe
http://www.evilface.com/cofba/dyno/ericdyno1.jpg
tell me who makes more low end power. thats right the LS1. The LT1 just feels stronger down low. LS1's just have trouble hooking up most of the time if you can't drive.
Andrew
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1995 LT1
2 Chamber Flowmaster Catback, March Performance Underdrive Crank Pulley, MSD 6AL Ignition Box. MSD Blaster Coil, MSD Wiring Hraness, Bosch +4 Platinum Plugs, Taylor Pro Race 409 Wires(blue), 3" LS1 Aluminum Driveshaft, GM 1LE Tranny Mount, Throttle Body Coolant Bypass, Hypertech 160 Thermo, LT4 Knock Module, Ultra Z Ram Air Box
Lt1 Ram Air Mod, Ported Mass Air Sensor, Holley Powershot Air Fitler, Silencer Cone Removed, AIR Pump Line Removed From Intake, Off Road Pipe
http://www.evilface.com/cofba/dyno/ericdyno1.jpg
tell me who makes more low end power. thats right the LS1. The LT1 just feels stronger down low. LS1's just have trouble hooking up most of the time if you can't drive.
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i don't want to take sides here...but we should leave the monkie alone,who cares what he posts,some people take this stuff too seriously! I will just say,I test drove a '98 SVT cobra and a'95 Z28 with about the same milage 50k on the same day....from a drivers standpoint,the SVT had it!!! sorry f-body people,I can appreciate a car when it earns my respect.
I really don't care if monkie has a nice car,either someone bought it for him or he bought it himself,it doesn't matter to me.
unless monkie's car is SERIOUSLY modded,he will find out what a beat-up '84 Trans Am's tailtights look like when the new engine is in! sorry monkie,it's not a ford vs. Chevy thing,it's all about HP & traction.
I really don't care if monkie has a nice car,either someone bought it for him or he bought it himself,it doesn't matter to me.
unless monkie's car is SERIOUSLY modded,he will find out what a beat-up '84 Trans Am's tailtights look like when the new engine is in! sorry monkie,it's not a ford vs. Chevy thing,it's all about HP & traction.
Originally posted by idrag2
Monkie,
What is it with you? You come on here trying to start crap with us.....because you have a Mustang, You need to get a life and grow up, Your car may be alittle fast but not too fast one of these days someone will out run you so bad you won't know what to say.........BTW I will be having a talk to the other MODS about banning you.
P.S. I am with MSS when he said your pissing him off......Your starting to **** me off very badly.
Monkie,
What is it with you? You come on here trying to start crap with us.....because you have a Mustang, You need to get a life and grow up, Your car may be alittle fast but not too fast one of these days someone will out run you so bad you won't know what to say.........BTW I will be having a talk to the other MODS about banning you.
P.S. I am with MSS when he said your pissing him off......Your starting to **** me off very badly.
Originally posted by CODY BEHNKE
Monkie= Full of ****
In my LT1 Trans Am I was never even close to being beat by any Mustangs. I doubt your car is what you say it is.
And yes I know some Cobras are fast
Monkie= Full of ****
In my LT1 Trans Am I was never even close to being beat by any Mustangs. I doubt your car is what you say it is.
And yes I know some Cobras are fast
you must have had one of those special LT1 T/As! If yours was anywhere short of a full exhaust, gears, and intake you would find out that the 1999 Cobra did indeed have MUSTANG written on the back bumper if you raced me. Originally posted by junkyarddog
i don't want to take sides here...but we should leave the monkie alone,who cares what he posts,some people take this stuff too seriously! I will just say,I test drove a '98 SVT cobra and a'95 Z28 with about the same milage 50k on the same day....from a drivers standpoint,the SVT had it!!! sorry f-body people,I can appreciate a car when it earns my respect.
I really don't care if monkie has a nice car,either someone bought it for him or he bought it himself,it doesn't matter to me.
unless monkie's car is SERIOUSLY modded,he will find out what a beat-up '84 Trans Am's tailtights look like when the new engine is in! sorry monkie,it's not a ford vs. Chevy thing,it's all about HP & traction.
i don't want to take sides here...but we should leave the monkie alone,who cares what he posts,some people take this stuff too seriously! I will just say,I test drove a '98 SVT cobra and a'95 Z28 with about the same milage 50k on the same day....from a drivers standpoint,the SVT had it!!! sorry f-body people,I can appreciate a car when it earns my respect.
I really don't care if monkie has a nice car,either someone bought it for him or he bought it himself,it doesn't matter to me.
unless monkie's car is SERIOUSLY modded,he will find out what a beat-up '84 Trans Am's tailtights look like when the new engine is in! sorry monkie,it's not a ford vs. Chevy thing,it's all about HP & traction.
Some people need to lighten up. i dont get why some people try to start fights over the internet? do u think yer badass or something???
u pay for your car with 2 jobs?? well good for you!!!
well done, congrats on working HARD for your car and so you could prove people on the internet WRONG!!!!
way to pat yourself on your back, im sure youre simling right now. no one cares if u paid for yer car yourself, big deal, i bought my car myself, u dont see me braggin every other post that its the fastest deal out there and that my daddy didnt spend a dime on it. if u feel u need to justify your existence based upon whether you paid for your car youself and modded it yourself perhaps you need a women or a good physciatrist.
stop starting internet fights you goon!
and yes, your posts on a thirdgen dedicated website suggest you are starting something other than what is accepted.
u pay for your car with 2 jobs?? well good for you!!!
well done, congrats on working HARD for your car and so you could prove people on the internet WRONG!!!!
way to pat yourself on your back, im sure youre simling right now. no one cares if u paid for yer car yourself, big deal, i bought my car myself, u dont see me braggin every other post that its the fastest deal out there and that my daddy didnt spend a dime on it. if u feel u need to justify your existence based upon whether you paid for your car youself and modded it yourself perhaps you need a women or a good physciatrist.
stop starting internet fights you goon!
and yes, your posts on a thirdgen dedicated website suggest you are starting something other than what is accepted.
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Originally posted by Monkie
WOW!
you must have had one of those special LT1 T/As! If yours was anywhere short of a full exhaust, gears, and intake you would find out that the 1999 Cobra did indeed have MUSTANG written on the back bumper if you raced me.[/B]
WOW!
you must have had one of those special LT1 T/As! If yours was anywhere short of a full exhaust, gears, and intake you would find out that the 1999 Cobra did indeed have MUSTANG written on the back bumper if you raced me.[/B]
:lala:
Ummm no my LT1 was normal,
As for your LT1 vs Cobra the Cobra alway lost from 93 to present
Even the non ram air LT1 could spank one, so the ram air was just adding insult to injury for the Cobra.
Ford should have stuck with one cam then they were competition.
Even the new Cobra SC is said to run mid to high 12's hmmmm
2002 SS runs 12.9 N/A
Just my .02
As for your LT1 vs Cobra the Cobra alway lost from 93 to present
Even the non ram air LT1 could spank one, so the ram air was just adding insult to injury for the Cobra.
Ford should have stuck with one cam then they were competition.
Even the new Cobra SC is said to run mid to high 12's hmmmm
2002 SS runs 12.9 N/A
Just my .02
An LT1 is a L98 with reverse cooling, better heads, a little more agressive cam, and a better breathing intake. Otherwise, there isnt much difference to them. Thats why a very lightly modded L98 will run with them, or beat them.
However the LT1 is a fantastic motor, and has the performance venture of all SBC's....serious horsepower.
However the LT1 is a fantastic motor, and has the performance venture of all SBC's....serious horsepower.
TIME TO LOCK........................and MONKIE I WILL BE WATCHING YOU!!!! If you don't start anything then your cool but .......if you try to start crap then I will lock or erase everything you put up!!!
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