How Stupid Is This Kid?!!!!
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How Stupid Is This Kid?!!!!
so ok, i just got a new camaro, my third one...lol its an 88 iroc z28 with a 350 TPI automatic B & M shift kit with the Zgate shifter, a crane cam, flowmaster exhuast, 3 inches off hte Y pipe, cat deleted, K&N filters, Borg warner wires, distributor, cap, rotor, Bosch platinum 4 plugs, t tops, ported and polished heads, and ported nad polsihed intake, has 400 rear wheel horsepower, i have a dyno sheet to prove this, but no scanner..and i have a slip saying that the car ran a 13.85 once... very nice car....and my friend in his 1998 mustang, no not a GT...just...a stock mustang, with a sound system, tinted windows, and a 3.8 automatic...never touched no k and ns no nothing..just..stock..all the way to the original plugs and wires,....its aight, not to bad..hit 130 once... and he is trying to tell me that since my car is purple, and is a camaro, its gonna lose cuz its heavy....now its people like this that **** me off.... i just wnated to punch him in the head, and the kid is one of my best friends...grr i hate people like this..lol you guys know id beat him in a quarter right? what are hte stock 98 mustangs with 3.8s running?
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Car: 1991 Formula
Engine: 350 firebreathing inches of Small Block Chevrolet
Transmission: A 700R4 that has trouble handling the formentioned 350.
Dude first off yea sure your buddy is a crackhead, You'll spank him. But did you have a typo or something 13.85 in the the 1/4 mile or the 1/2. the 1/2 is more beleivable with 400 RWH, you should be running like 11.85 in the 1/4, unless there is like 2 spark plugs missing. Your car should be way quicker than that.
But anyways, Yea after you race him and beat him take your car to the shop so they can fix whatever is wrong with the 13.85 1/4 mile time. No offense just seems a little slow.
Later, Garrett
But anyways, Yea after you race him and beat him take your car to the shop so they can fix whatever is wrong with the 13.85 1/4 mile time. No offense just seems a little slow.
Later, Garrett
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Car: 1991 Formula
Engine: 350 firebreathing inches of Small Block Chevrolet
Transmission: A 700R4 that has trouble handling the formentioned 350.
You know what now that I've thought about it maybe it could have run a 13.85 with 400 rwhp, if the tires where
the whole 1/4 mile.
But anyways even a 13.85 beats the little v-6 Mustang.
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But anyways even a 13.85 beats the little v-6 Mustang.
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Car: 99 Formula
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400rwhp?? and only 13.85... I'm smellin.
But then again my brother had a car with around that much HP ran mid 13, cause he ran out of gas goin down the strip.
That Mustang won't break out of the 16s.
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That Mustang won't break out of the 16s.
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Originally posted by Mark A Shields
400rwhp?? and only 13.85... I'm smellin.
But then again my brother had a car with around that much HP ran mid 13, cause he ran out of gas goin down the strip.
That Mustang won't break out of the 16s.
400rwhp?? and only 13.85... I'm smellin.
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That Mustang won't break out of the 16s.
a stock good runing 350 Z could take one.
don't be afraid of V6 american cars.
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There is absoultely no way that motor is 400 rwhp. Maybe, and maybe 400crand HP, but not rear wheel.
If you had 400 rwhp, you'd be low 11's.........I would say you have 350 crank HP.
If you had 400 rwhp, you'd be low 11's.........I would say you have 350 crank HP.
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Car: '89 IROC-Z
Engine: Canfield 195 headed 358ci
Transmission: TH350, Art Carr 9.5"
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I agree. I'm pulling out the
on that one. Stock headed, all-motor TPI car running 400 rear wheel horses? Never ever in a million years.
V6 mustangs have like 160HP at the crank. They are slow, heavy, and ugly dogs.
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V6 mustangs have like 160HP at the crank. They are slow, heavy, and ugly dogs.
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Hell you'd eat a 1999 updated 3.8 stang, with the car your talking about, those 1998's are pigs... The guy is a crackhead..
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Hey, Biker, I like American v6s. Hell, I'd take a Vulcan over a Yamaha any day. But that's another story.
I think maybe someone got that 400 rwhp by adding it up in their head. No problem tho, still a cool car. And you can get that much with work.
I think maybe someone got that 400 rwhp by adding it up in their head. No problem tho, still a cool car. And you can get that much with work.
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Originally posted by Abel Kane
Hey, Biker, I like American v6s. Hell, I'd take a Vulcan over a Yamaha any day. But that's another story.
I think maybe someone got that 400 rwhp by adding it up in their head. No problem tho, still a cool car. And you can get that much with work.
Hey, Biker, I like American v6s. Hell, I'd take a Vulcan over a Yamaha any day. But that's another story.
I think maybe someone got that 400 rwhp by adding it up in their head. No problem tho, still a cool car. And you can get that much with work.
sure there is the V6 3800 that runs good
but anyone with a supped up 350 like that kid said he has...should have no fear of a V6 stang or F-body.
that 400 RWDHP sounds like alittle
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Are you sure the dyno sheet is for your car. 400rwhp Is almost 500 hp at the crank w/an auto. I think you got tricked. Port work, cam an exhaust is not going to almost double the hp of a that engine. I would say it possible has 300wrhp. but not much more without aftermarket heads, and intake. sorry to burst your bubble, but 400rwhp camaro would be in the 11s.
but on a better note, you should beat the stang.
but on a better note, you should beat the stang.
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Let me just remind people that it is possible to get that much Hp out of a 350 all motor. That said, it would take a lot more work than listed to acheive that goal.... probably $20k in engine work.
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First you need to smack your friend then you need to beat the hell out of his car in a race. After that slap him again
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Car: 2001 Formula
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..and i have a slip saying that the car ran a 13.85 once...
If he did, than I have to agree with all of you and say that its a pretty sad time with that setup. As for the stang:
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Originally posted by ChillPhatCat
Let me just remind people that it is possible to get that much Hp out of a 350 all motor. That said, it would take a lot more work than listed to acheive that goal.... probably $20k in engine work.
Let me just remind people that it is possible to get that much Hp out of a 350 all motor. That said, it would take a lot more work than listed to acheive that goal.... probably $20k in engine work.
but i don't think that car has 300 hp. it sounds like that car came off of a summit cat. straight to the web......
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It would cost $75k and three hundred man hours to get a 350 to have 400RWHP!!%$!@% Then the Mustang would STILL win!!!! OH NOSSSS!
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my fault my fault, the car has 400 CRANK hp...not RWHP..sorry bout that lol i double checked the dyno sheet that the guy has, once i find a scanner ill scan it up for u, and it was a 13, with bad traction, and without the cam...so yea..im lookin to see 12s, at least..but..sorry for the mixup lol, later guys
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Car: 99 Formula
Engine: LS1
Transmission: T56
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Originally posted by DUSTINZ28
my fault my fault, the car has 400 CRANK hp...not RWHP..sorry bout that lol i double checked the dyno sheet that the guy has, once i find a scanner ill scan it up for u, and it was a 13, with bad traction, and without the cam...so yea..im lookin to see 12s, at least..but..sorry for the mixup lol, later guys
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my fault my fault, the car has 400 CRANK hp...not RWHP..sorry bout that lol i double checked the dyno sheet that the guy has, once i find a scanner ill scan it up for u, and it was a 13, with bad traction, and without the cam...so yea..im lookin to see 12s, at least..but..sorry for the mixup lol, later guys
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With my current setup in DD2000 I have around 300hp with 8:1 compression. But add larger valve heads with 10:1 compression and I'm only at 384 hp.
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Originally posted by Inwo
It would cost $75k and three hundred man hours to get a 350 to have 400RWHP!!%$!@% Then the Mustang would STILL win!!!! OH NOSSSS!
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It would cost $75k and three hundred man hours to get a 350 to have 400RWHP!!%$!@% Then the Mustang would STILL win!!!! OH NOSSSS!
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would that work?
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don't be afraid of V6 american cars.
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well, i talked to the guy i bought the car from today, and asked him to list every mod he had done, it was all of the above that i showed u, with different heads bought from summet, i thought they were stock, its got bigger injectors, and he said it has aftermarket pistons in it, i forget what kinda pistons they were, like, there wiseco, dome top or something liek that/.? he has alot of the receipts and i now have them in my cneter console... so i hope this makes it a little bit more beliveable, just ask my neighbors, lol ive been drag racing up and down my alley, i raced my neighbor in his integra that runs 14's. he hit the nos and still didnt pull on me, its great, but i gottta stop racing in the alley lol... later guys
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Car: 1991 Formula
Engine: 350 firebreathing inches of Small Block Chevrolet
Transmission: A 700R4 that has trouble handling the formentioned 350.
Maybe I'm missing the sarcasism here but an all motor carb.'ed 350 can make over 410 flywheel horse for about $2500 (I've done it). And I have seen a 350 turn 585 flywheel horse for about $8000. So maybe you guys where kinding and I'm stupid for not picking it up, but those kind of numbers are achievable with a small block 350.
However a complete rebuild with aftermarket everything is required and these costs do not included labor (built the engine myself), but still can be done. If anyone wants some more info. (detailed analysis) about engine building prices let me know and I think I can break it down for you.
Just had to clearify this, Garrett
However a complete rebuild with aftermarket everything is required and these costs do not included labor (built the engine myself), but still can be done. If anyone wants some more info. (detailed analysis) about engine building prices let me know and I think I can break it down for you.
Just had to clearify this, Garrett
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im right along with camarofreak406, ive seen many a 350 built to 375 plus with under around 1500, yes my cousins and uncle did ALL the work but still its not that hard, go buy a 350 out of a chevy truck(not blown, junkyard truck) around here u can get one for around 150. then cam it, rering it, put in new main and rod bearings, get a old smkey set of 305 heads, port and polish the living crap out of them, work the valves to 1.95s and 1.6s get a good manifold, double pumper, and blot it all back together. its realy not all that hard or expensive if u do the work urself. the 305 heads bump up the compression with the stock pistons, and then make sure u have a hell of a valve train combo and a good intake and carb and thats realy all there is to it. and yes i know it wont be the most relaible engine but who cares its for racing anyway ur gonna blow it sonner than later. and dont throw bs and say it cant be done cause i just helped build a 350 for 1500 from the ground up for that was pushing 350 horses. later
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Originally posted by CamaroFreak406
Maybe I'm missing the sarcasism here but an all motor carb.'ed 350 can make over 410 flywheel horse for about $2500 (I've done it).
Maybe I'm missing the sarcasism here but an all motor carb.'ed 350 can make over 410 flywheel horse for about $2500 (I've done it).
Now, there are some ZZ502's out there in some stiff first Gen Camaro's with less than 400 RWHP. And we're talking aluminum headed 502's.
So yea, 400 at the flywheel is different. I have that, and built it myself as well. So SBC's can get great HP and TQ, but where you throw the numbers from will be the sign if it's a 'true' rating or not.
And on the other post, sure, you can build a pretty mild 350 for $1500. But IMHO, the 305's will bump compression, but that's about it. Flow characteristics (loss) wouldn't be worth the added bump in compression.Me, I would keep 350 heads, and change cam to help add compression, or use different pistons and lower the quench.
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