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Old Sep 2, 2002 | 08:37 AM
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Rice boy bites off more than he can chew

Now let it be known that I never start a race with a *****. They're a waste of gas and you never know what stupid thing they're going to do next that could get someone killed or get you caught. That being said. I got behind a kid in one of the never preludes at a light yesterday. Evidently, he didn't realize that I already know what a Husquvarna sounds like, so he started revving that little fart piped piece of crap to show me. OK, you're cool buddy. Light turns green and I he takes off squealing tires Fair enough, lane next to me is open and there's no traffic in front of us. I whip around beside him at 3/4 throttle, shift into 2nd at 5000 (I shift at 6100 at the track), and put a couple carlengths on him and shut down. Just enough to let him know that I thoroughly whipped his ***... :lala:
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Old Sep 2, 2002 | 09:26 AM
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Thats awsome. Husquvarna hahah.
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Old Sep 2, 2002 | 09:41 AM
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What a moron. I don't go revvin my car at Stangs, cause I know most are modded and would prolly whoop me.
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Old Sep 2, 2002 | 10:25 AM
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nic,

i do agree that most of them are gutless for lack of a better word on take off...but once they hit their powerban(i-vtec) they do give you a run for you money

i was coming home from a meet here in ontario, going up the 400 i hear this car coming up like doing at least 180 kmph(speed limit is 100) im already doing 120 just cruising with my buddy thats in his 86 cobra gt(had about 345 or so to the wheels) when this prelude (2001?) blows by us like we were standing still so b4 i know it my buddy is gone after him...so i let them go for a bit..i dont know about your stang nic but it looked like my buddies cut out at some speed, so i see the lude taking off on him, drop mine into 3rd catch up within maybe a min now im in 4th pacing this lude doing like 200 maybe...i goose it he gooses back play like that for a bit then he takes off, i was shocked with the hp they have top end..so i floor itonce i hit 230 i drop it into 5th and catch him, the gf looks at him and waves as i blow by him doing 240kp/h and the speedometer bouncing off the bottom of the gauge..

they are pretty quick top end for sure..dont underestimate them

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Old Sep 2, 2002 | 10:31 AM
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its good to keep the ricers in their place
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Old Sep 2, 2002 | 01:23 PM
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how fast is 240 kph in mph. I was just wondering. and how fast is the speed limit (100kph) in mph.
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Old Sep 2, 2002 | 02:45 PM
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60 m/h is 100kms, on ontario highways the speed limit is 100kms(60 mph) i was ****ting my pants..i thought i was gonna get pulled over so thats why i shut down just after i pulled a bit on him..

so 240kph is roughly 160-180 m/h i think maybe

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Old Sep 2, 2002 | 04:54 PM
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if u were goin 240 kph and that 160-180 in MPH then i have to raise the and ill do that many of times
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Old Sep 2, 2002 | 05:00 PM
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240kph = 144 mph
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Old Sep 2, 2002 | 05:57 PM
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but once they hit their powerban(i-vtec) they do give you a run for you money
i dont know about your stang nic but it looked like my buddies cut out at some speed
With the 4.10's, my car tops out at 115, but I'm usually so far out in front of most (not all) cars I race on the street that I can shut down at about 80.
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Old Sep 2, 2002 | 06:15 PM
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A lot of the import cars are quicker top end than off the line. They lack the torque to move off the line but once you are moving the high revving engines do help out.

But it's not like i drive around at 140MPH all the time. I can't even tell you the last time i broke 100MPH. The gearing in my car is set up for 0-80MPH pretty much. With the 2.73's it used to pull pretty good past 100, but i sacrificed my top end for some more "butt into the seat" low end power by tossing in 3.73's.

With that said, you wouldn't beleive how many import guys wanna race "From an 80MPH roll" OR they tell you "I don't drag race, i freeway race"....meaning they won't race you until they are doing 80-100MPH or so.

It's pretty big here...there have been 3 deaths already this week alone from kids doing 120MPH down the local highways.


I prefer to beat them 0-50 and then let em come by 10 seconds later and flash their little flashers all they want. I have better things to do.
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Old Sep 2, 2002 | 06:28 PM
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Anyone driving that fast without a roll cage is an idiot anyway. Let them purify the gene pool all they want.
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Old Sep 2, 2002 | 06:34 PM
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240kph = 150mph
100kph = 62.5mph

Just multipy the mph by 1.6 for kph or divide mph by 1.6 for kph
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Old Sep 2, 2002 | 08:36 PM
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ok i stand corrected lmao well we were moving pretty fast and it seems 150mph is what it was..

iroc2nv

and yes the imports do like the top end more...

they fear our low end torque i suppose


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Old Sep 2, 2002 | 10:16 PM
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I knew the 240kph conversion as that one is stuck in my head. I hit a white tailed deer on my sportbike at that speed a few years back.
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Old Sep 2, 2002 | 10:35 PM
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I knew the 240kph conversion as that one is stuck in my head. I hit a white tailed deer on my sportbike at that speed a few years back.
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Old Sep 3, 2002 | 12:16 PM
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thats amazing you didnt die hitting a dear at 150mph. wow.

i wouldnt go that fast on the road even if my car would i wouldnt. my car will only go about 130 so im ok. i wouldnt even go 130 on the road who am i kidding. that speed is only for the track.
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Old Sep 3, 2002 | 08:43 PM
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The bike went through the deer like a large calibre bullet, it pretty much exploded into tiny pieces. I broke a couple of things and was laid up for a bit and told by the family no more bikes so hence the Camaro.
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Old Sep 3, 2002 | 09:26 PM
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How far were you thrown through the air?
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Old Sep 3, 2002 | 09:31 PM
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yeah street racing can be bad. I've never raced on the highway and i don't plan too. At those speeds you really take risks. I know most f-bods can handle those speeds, but my car hums in the rear at 50. I can't imagine the noise double that speed. I also NEVER race somewhere where i don't know the road. In my town (Hilsborough) two kids from Edison raced on a back country road (about 2 miles long) and one didn't stop in time. He hit the curb, flipped and hit a tree MAYBE 3 yards from a house. One car was an Accord and the other was beyond recognition to me. Will i ever highway race? I doubt it. I've never raced past 85-90 or taken my car past that. I only do it with my friends because i know them and we know what to expect. Everything else is saved for the track. Sorry just venting. That accident was bad though. The kid that flipped his car even had a girl sitting shotgun who was helicoptered out. It was scary.

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I was very fortunate and never got airborne. I was down in the crouch at impact and when I came to I was sliding somewhat smoothly.
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Old Sep 4, 2002 | 10:32 AM
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Actually, 100 kph is 62 mph.
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Old Sep 4, 2002 | 04:39 PM
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Originally posted by iroc2nv
[B]nic,

i do agree that most of them are gutless for lack of a better word on take off...but once they hit their powerban(i-vtec) they do give you a run for you money
LOL...you can't be serious.....what kinda car are YOU driving?
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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 07:00 AM
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ir0cz..im talking about the ones that have some mods...headers, full exaust flywheel and turbos...

damn...people jump to conclusions way too quickly here

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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 08:09 AM
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ir0cz..im talking about the ones that have some mods...headers, full exaust flywheel and turbos...

damn...people jump to conclusions way too quickly here

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my expierience has been that MOST (like 90%) of hondas rolling around on the street are completely worthless as far as racing... it take SERIOUS all motor setup or some kind of forced induction to get them moving..
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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 09:27 AM
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Good kill, I hate people that rev at faster cars at lights... Thats why it doesn't bother me to see them at the track.. At least they can't ACT like they have fast cars..

About honda's top end:

Once again, I raced my buddy (jc92formula) with my lightly modded rsx type s from 60 up, it is dead on even. He's got the l98 with the 700r4 tranny... We finally raced from a stop and his car is pretty brutal in fist gear.. He pulls about 3 cars out of the hole and holds it at about 40-up... It's a much better race for me, from a roll.. I have to wait until about 6000 rpm to make any power in first, and I can't launch any higher than 4000 rpm without wheel hop... Whereas his makes power from the go..

What is 3-4 cars in the 1/4? .4 seconds? That sounds about right... He should be low-mid 14's, I should be high 14's...
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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 10:12 AM
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Originally posted by iroc2nv
ir0cz..im talking about the ones that have some mods...headers, full exaust flywheel and turbos...

damn...people jump to conclusions way too quickly here

iroc2nv
I know you were talking about modded ones. but still....you've gotta be joking right? I'm guessing you have a stock to near stock RS, which would run low 16s, in which case a honda pulling on you would be understandable....but I'm not exactly lightning quick, and i've beat every import but one (when i say IMPORT, i mean your everyday hondas and acuras), that includes ones that are modded, motor swaps, spraying and or supercharged. The only honda i've ever lost to is a friend of mine w/ a turbo hatchback that runs mid 12s. The fact that my car w/ stock heads, cam, converter, chip, all stock intake can beat motor swapped, supercharged and spraying hondas proves that they suck. I understand the challenge of wanting to make somethig slow fast....if that's they case, why dont they by a maverick!
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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 10:14 AM
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Originally posted by 92fire-audio
Good kill, I hate people that rev at faster cars at lights... Thats why it doesn't bother me to see them at the track.. At least they can't ACT like they have fast cars..

About honda's top end:

Once again, I raced my buddy (jc92formula) with my lightly modded rsx type s from 60 up, it is dead on even. He's got the l98 with the 700r4 tranny... We finally raced from a stop and his car is pretty brutal in fist gear.. He pulls about 3 cars out of the hole and holds it at about 40-up... It's a much better race for me, from a roll.. I have to wait until about 6000 rpm to make any power in first, and I can't launch any higher than 4000 rpm without wheel hop... Whereas his makes power from the go..

What is 3-4 cars in the 1/4? .4 seconds? That sounds about right... He should be low-mid 14's, I should be high 14's...
See, and RSX is a real car....an import sports car if you will. I can respect a car like that.....but i cannont and will not respect, nor give any kind of credit to some guy w/ his mom's old accord that puts an exaust on it and thinks he's quick.
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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 12:10 PM
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See, and RSX is a real car....an import sports car if you will. I can respect a car like that......
the RSX is not much differant than an integra or civic SI.. what makes it a "sports car" its just another luxury econobox in sports car cloths.. nothing real exciting about it....
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the RSX is not much differant than an integra or civic SI.. what makes it a "sports car" its just another luxury econobox in sports car cloths.. nothing real exciting about it....
IMO it's a form of an import sports car...#1 is cause it has some decent power...runs low 15s as apposed to the civics and all that run 17s stock. 15's is still not real fast, but not bad starting out. I also believe it handles a lot better than the civic and such, much as the integra did. I think better handling and more power qualifies it as an import sports car. It's no S2000 or NSX, but it's sporty.
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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 01:24 PM
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Originally posted by ir0cz
IMO it's a form of an import sports car...#1 is cause it has some decent power...runs low 15s as apposed to the civics and all that run 17s stock. 15's is still not real fast, but not bad starting out. I also believe it handles a lot better than the civic and such, much as the integra did. I think better handling and more power qualifies it as an import sports car. It's no S2000 or NSX, but it's sporty.
just so we are completely clear...

99-00 civic si is a mid 15 second car..

96-98 civic ex is a mid 16 second car

94-95 honda prelude is a low 15 sec car

99 v6 accord is also a mid 15 sec car

all integra GSRs are mid to low 15 seconds

so actualy there are a lot of cars from the honda camp that will turn high to low 15 sec passes right of the lot... so to me.. ehh rsx.. OVER RATED... nice car.. but VERY OVER RATED

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ir0cz...

i have a 350 tpi 5 spd(obviously the motor was swapped) and i havent lost to a honda yet..i have however been walked on by a juiced up eagle talon tsi..this car was quick...

anyways...

there is no shame in losing to a car..whether it be an import or domestic when they have spent $40000 on thier motor...even though i do admit putting $40000 on a motor(import) isnt the brightest move unless its an rs7 or supra or something to that extent...

i do like imports some of them actually do look nice to me..but what i dont like is the ones that think b/c they put a k/n cone filter on their car..they'll run low 14's high 13's aint gonna happen

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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 01:39 PM
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Originally posted by snjracer
just so we are completely clear...

99-00 civic si is a mid 15 second car..

96-98 civic ex is a mid 16 second car

94-95 honda prelude is a low 15 sec car

99 v6 accord is also a mid 15 sec car

all integra GSRs are mid to low 15 seconds

so actualy there are a lot of cars from the honda camp that will turn high to low 15 sec passes right of the lot... so to me.. ehh rsx.. OVER RATED... nice car.. but VERY OVER RATED

I know what all those cars run....but i stated that i'm talking about your averaget kid that gets his mom's old honda or accord and rices it out. None of those cars fall under that category. And you're right, the RSX is overated...i wouldn't buy one. But it's still a respectable car, and does not fall under the category of "rice", that's the point i was trying to get at.
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Originally posted by iroc2nv
ir0cz...

i have a 350 tpi 5 spd(obviously the motor was swapped) and i havent lost to a honda yet..i have however been walked on by a juiced up eagle talon tsi..this car was quick...

anyways...

there is no shame in losing to a car..whether it be an import or domestic when they have spent $40000 on thier motor...even though i do admit putting $40000 on a motor(import) isnt the brightest move unless its an rs7 or supra or something to that extent...

i do like imports some of them actually do look nice to me..but what i dont like is the ones that think b/c they put a k/n cone filter on their car..they'll run low 14's high 13's aint gonna happen

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First....STOCK eagle talon TSI are quick W/OUT juice...so no shame there. I used to work for schilling jeep/eagle/chrysler...so i used to drive those on a regular basis. One of our best customers is a guy that put a bigger turbo on and such and runs mid to low 13s. Second. You're right, there's no shame to losing to a guy that's put $40 grand in the motor....hell, if thy put $5 grand in the motor, there's no shame. I too like some imports...I LOVE supras and RX7s, and there's a few others i like a bit....it's the kids that get there mom's old corolla, civic, that slap on a filter and fart can that try to race me that i hate. And i'm sorry at my earlier comment, it was more of a way to make fun of them rather than trying to flame you....that was not my intention at all. How do you like that 5 speed behind the 350? plan on going to a 6 speed eventually?
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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 02:06 PM
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Originally posted by ir0cz
I know what all those cars run....but i stated that i'm talking about your averaget kid that gets his mom's old honda or accord and rices it out. None of those cars fall under that category. And you're right, the RSX is overated...i wouldn't buy one. But it's still a respectable car, and does not fall under the category of "rice", that's the point i was trying to get at.
i TOTALY understand the point.. i understand it first hand.. on a daily basis... but i just get annoyed because it seems people are all to quick to generalize the civic name badge.. and then the whole $40 k argument is brought up.. the money factor is a useless argument because it really does not cost THAT much... i got most of my **** second hand (cause im cheap) and when i run whatever i ACTUALY run at the track.. not what i think i will run.. i will post slips and a break down of costs to go that.... the k&n filter and exhaust to go 13's can be applied to ANY car culture... go find your stereotypical ****** wearing 5.0 owner with flowmasters.. ask him what he runs... then laugh.. point made... ricers are by far the worst i agree completely.. the **** they do to cars is uncalled for.. i mean wing wise and all.. its GOOFY..
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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 03:44 PM
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i dont know about the 6 spd...whether it will even bolt up is another story...im still new to the camaro aspect...id like to get a 6th gear ..although i rarely hit 5th now as it is so 6 may be a bit of overkill but it would be nice...if i could find a nice used one maybe but that would be at the bottom of my "THINGS TO DO LIST" if you know what i mean..

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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 06:56 PM
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Originally posted by iroc2nv
i dont know about the 6 spd...whether it will even bolt up is another story...im still new to the camaro aspect...id like to get a 6th gear ..although i rarely hit 5th now as it is so 6 may be a bit of overkill but it would be nice...if i could find a nice used one maybe but that would be at the bottom of my "THINGS TO DO LIST" if you know what i mean..

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It'll bolt up no problem, many people on this board have done it...there's also a few tech articles on it. It's not so much about having the 6th gear (although it's great), the but the T56 is SO much stronger than the T5. There are a few guys out there that are really fast w/ the T5, but a lot of people blow em up when they get a lot of power behind em.
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Old Sep 7, 2002 | 09:40 PM
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since my camaro is still put up since i cant figure out the problems with the ignition i am driving my dads mazda B2000 truck, its a 4cyl with rwd, the thing can be rather fast for its weight and lack of power once you get the rivs up, i am trying to talk him into putting in the roatary motin with a turbo which is sittin in the garage. but in it i havent lost to a single honda or acura on the streets. but ive never really tried on the highway, it hs no ***** there. but even when i drove my camaro i raced the Del sol, their older sports car, it was a V-tec with intake and exhaust. my stock 305 took him on a 60mph roll:lala: . i had the LG4, my only mod was open element with a paper filter. i had him by half a car length, and those are really ligt cars, so they dot have that much power at the top. once i get my 350 up i wont bother even returnign a rev at them, plain and simple, waist of gas. im looking towards other muscle cars.
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Old Sep 8, 2002 | 10:20 AM
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Originally posted by Squeeks83
Del sol, their older sports car, it was a V-tec with intake and exhaust. my stock 305 took him on a 60mph roll:lala: . i had the LG4, my only mod was open element with a paper filter. i had him by half a car length, and those are really ligt cars, so they dot have that much power at the top. once i get my 350 up i wont bother even returnign a rev at them, plain and simple, waist of gas. im looking towards other muscle cars.

its a honda..... so its hardly a sports car... its actualy a bitch car, BUT blur motorsports in PA has a totaly streetable 11 sec del sol, and its vtec not V-Tec, and actualy for a honda.. the del sol is on the heavy side

point of the story.... just like all camaro owners don't listen to whitesnake and have ******s, not all hondas are slow...

and as far as "when you get your 350"
when the ***** gets his twin turbo NNAAAWWWS yo' he won't even bother racing you, point being... talk about mods you have in the car, not mods or engines or whatever that are on the "wish list" that is ghey... similar to this little fella-->:lala:
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