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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 10:51 PM
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street racing article

http://manifestation.org/~ill/fs/upl...carArticle.jpg

got this from www.fuelslut.com
please dont FLAME on this thread!

also here are some other threads from different boards so you can see what other people are saying about this
http://www.cffb.net/_forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1913

http://www.supraforums.com/showthrea...threadid=72472

http://www.ls1.com/forums/showthread...hreadid=163344

http://www.300zxclub.com/showthread....&threadid=4112
and also info on the paper that published this

UCF Future 407-447-4555
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Old Sep 18, 2002 | 11:22 AM
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Very interesting, I would love to meet this guy Travis Clark, I would congraulate him for being my idol. I wonder if he can build me a 10 second civic for $10,000. 15,000-17,000 dollars to build up a mustang into the 10's. BTW, does anyone know any street legal all motor civics in the 12's with full interior?
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Old Sep 18, 2002 | 11:44 AM
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Hahahahahahahahahahahaha

No seriously, interesting article, and I'm not mocking you because I know you didn't write it, but wtf? An all motor 10sec Civic for $10000, and $15-17K to get a V-8 to do that? That is the funniest thing I've read all day. These punks need to quit watching the fast and the furious while they're stoned, they're starting to mix up tv and reality. Man dude you made my day:sillylol: .

One of the LS1 guys had the best quote in terms of the dude in the article buying an old beat-up honda, swapping the motor to a J-spec, and running quick for ten grand.

"Yeah and for 2-3K I can do that to a 92 Caprice."
Hell yeah, rock on brother

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Old Sep 18, 2002 | 01:01 PM
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i feel like an old man reading this thinking, "damn punk kids. When i was a kid there only were domestics and nothing foreign even looked at a V8 the wrong way or it would be scrapped." I'm only 18, but that's the way it still should be. If not for the success of the Japanese cars in America, we could have bought Japan already. Also GM and Ford and Dodge and Chrysler would all have so much money that there would be some absolutely amazing cars out today. Super high performance cars and super economy cars. In my honest opinion, foreign cars ruined the cars of the future. Look at how GM dropped the f-bodies. WTF! Damn imports. By the way, with $15-1700 Nic could be running in the 8's with a Mustang.

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Old Sep 18, 2002 | 02:14 PM
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Cute.....very cute......the guy who wrote that article should switch his Journalism major to something else. He seems to have a promising career as a fiction writer. An all-motor, 10-sec. Civic for $10,000? Right. $15,000 for the same in a Stang? Ludicrous. One of the guys on the DSM board made a reference to the fight coming down to the 'car enthusiasts vs. the rice boys', as opposed to foreign vs. domestic, and I totally agree. Anyone who has any idea of what they are talking about will see through that pile of garbage immediately. High-compression motor? Japanese automakers aren't stupid. Especially in an economy car (read: Civic), they want it to run on as low an octane rating as possible. they certainly wouldn't sell many if you had to fill it up with 91-octane, it would negate the low operating cost of the car. Three-ton domestic? What has he been racing, Ford Excursions? Don't get me wrong, I have total respect for any car guy who puts time, effort, and money into making his car fast, no matter who makes it. But this is just stupid.
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Old Sep 18, 2002 | 02:23 PM
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im sorry, but i can't stop laughing!!! that guy thinks its cheaper to put a civic in the 10's than an "old muscle car?" what an idiot!!! a friend of mine put a cat back exhaust on his civic. set him back $720!! my full exhaust cost $500...dumb kids....
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Old Sep 18, 2002 | 02:59 PM
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First let me wipe away the tears from my eyes from laughing so hard. Assuming you just "happen" to have 8-10 grand laying around to import an engine, I do believe that Civics were not known for there carvernous engine bays. Plus even if you get the engine in, what about the tranny and suspension? I could buy an old riding lawn mower, bolt on a 350 and get it to actually run cheaper than getting a 10 sec Civic.
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Old Sep 18, 2002 | 03:17 PM
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Okay this kid is a moran. With 800hp, an import would run 10s whereas a Muscle car would run 8s (Supra vs Camaro).If this kid thinks I would have to spend 17,000 to go 10s he is sadly mistaken. I could spend 10,000 and go 10s with the ability to drive it home after racing. And importing a 10 second jap spec motor would cost well over 10,000 and then the drivetrain and such to hook it up!!! He would be looking at a good 25,000 to get it to go 10s and drive it home!!! This kid should come out to central CT where the true street racing is between classic muscle cars modern muscle cars, and a few Supras thrown in!!!
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Old Sep 19, 2002 | 08:59 PM
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well after much complaining from members of many message boards the guy who wrote that replied.
Now they guy wants the input of many car enthusiasts for a new story, he wants to see racing at the track or elsewhere, he wants to see the real side of things.
Heres what he said & his info if we choose contact him.


Leon Terry writes...
Hey,

I'm the guy who wrote the article everyone has been going postal about,
and I'd like to address some of the concerns that have been brought up.

1) The DSM statement was an addition made by an editor after I turned in the story. I was as surprised as many of you were when I read it, and a correction statement regarding the club will be running in the next issue. To those involved myself and the staff would like to
apologize.

2) The only people we can quote in this type of story is students and faculty - I made the trip over to the track in Bithlo and was unable to find either, so in order to get quotes I basically hung around the UCF parking lots for a day talking to whoever was driving a hooked up car.
The problem is out of the 20+ people interviewed, only three were willing to go on the record about it. Hence the off the wall quotes.

I can't just come out and say that the Z28 I drove for 4 years will
blow the doors off anything short of a VR4, I have to get somebody else
to say it on the record. If all anybody will say on the record is
"street racing is dead" or "domestics suck," that's all we have to
print. While I understand that people don't want the cops after them, by refusing to comment you guys hung yourselves out to dry.

3) This story (and pretty much anything that's not a column) doesn't reflect my opinion on the subject or the opinion of the paper. Personally I don't care much for imports, and think it's absurd that every third Civic I see has a "Type R" sticker on it. If any of you are or know a UCF student who would be willing to write a column on street racing, domestics being better cars, etc, get in touch with me and we'll be happy to run it. There's a few basic rules such as no cursing, no racial slurs (you can't call them "rice boys," no matter how tempting it is) etc but over all it's pretty easy and they're generally only 300 words.

4) I've made this offer on a few forums already, but if you know of
anything going on in the Orlando area, drop me a line at
leon@visualinsites.com - not necessarily for a story or anything, I'd
just like to see what it's all about.

Lastly, if you guys could post this on any forums you're apart of I
would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks,

Leon Terry
Staff Writer
leon@ucffuture.com
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Old Sep 19, 2002 | 10:40 PM
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it's this kind of ignorance that make the cops bust up 'get togethers' at the local seven-eleven corner store. it's this kind of ignorance that will spread fear and loathing to a non-informed population and will thence turn against us in some form or another.
even random acts of violence against sports cars..
seen it happen.
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Old Sep 19, 2002 | 11:24 PM
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I assume the damadge to the front of the car is due to the impact with the ground, you know when he drove it off a cliff to get in to the tens

glad the reporter has the ***** to be unbiased

when will the latest generation learn the its all been done before. every dumas s with a screwdriver thinks he is a hotrodder or a racer.
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Old Sep 20, 2002 | 08:15 AM
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Why do people think that the statement "*****, riceboy" etc. is a racial slur? Have they noticed that the term can be used to describe any type of car, regardless of manufacturer, origin, owner, etc. I can say "OMFG!!! Look how riced out that UFO is!!!" Are people going to tell me that I am being prejudice against the UFO? The term has been so worn and pocketed that I do not know who even created it. I heard one of my freinds use is 2-3 years ago, and I had also heard it before the dark ages of the Fast and Furious.
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Old Sep 20, 2002 | 08:53 AM
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the first time i ever heard the term "rice" used, was when curt86iroc's dad said it. I forget where we were, but this ugly CRX with a huge muffler in the back drove by and he asked if we knew what they were called. Well this was like 2 yrs ago and he said it's called a "rice burner" because you can cook rice in the muffler. I believe the requirements for that term would be a japanese car with a large muffler.

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Old Sep 20, 2002 | 09:12 AM
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The term did come from 'riceburner'.


Supposedly people used to run rice through their bikes to clean them out or something, "burning rice", and that kinda is a prerequisite to the term.
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Old Sep 20, 2002 | 10:05 AM
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hehe, good old dad....
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Old Sep 20, 2002 | 10:08 AM
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yeah, your dad is awesome. How is he curt? I guess i'll see him next weekend and your cool mom too.

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Old Sep 20, 2002 | 10:19 AM
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WTF? Club DSM? Street Racing? I guess SOMEONE didn't bother to check their sources...
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Old Sep 20, 2002 | 10:37 AM
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the guy is just a dumbass
and since im azn i do c alot of peeps callin my car ***** even tho its a stock z body kit.
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Old Sep 20, 2002 | 12:55 PM
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i think it came from the motorcycle crowd, rice rockets
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Old Sep 20, 2002 | 01:00 PM
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guys,

hate to burst your bubbles here...

but i know a guy that has a 94 prelude that does the 1/4 in 13.2 without nos...he has a turbo and all the rest is motor...

he paid about $15000 canadian,(so like $11,000 usd)..it is possible...just have to know what you are doing...

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Old Sep 20, 2002 | 01:56 PM
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so what can he do without the turbo? I wanna see a 10 second honda for under $10000.
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Old Sep 20, 2002 | 02:01 PM
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Wait a second we just have to know what we're doing? Of course we do, I built a 12.9 sec. '82 Camaro, w/o Nitrous or a turbo, or fuel injection, for 4,000 (US dollars), so who cares 13.2 isn't that fast. All sorts of guys on this site have cars just like this and paid far less than $11500 (US dollars) and are way way faster than 13.2 on all motor, w/o turbo's.
So my bubble isn't bursted (is that even a word , bursted ). I don't hate imports (Supra's excluded, I love those things, ) but the more I here people defend them the more I like my Camaro.
If I had $11500 to throw at a car I would be well into the high 10's man.
Later, Garrett
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Old Sep 20, 2002 | 02:46 PM
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So my bubble isn't bursted (is that even a word , bursted ).
I think it's just burst.

"So my bubble isn't burst"....uhhh, that doesn't sound quite right either. You should just say "So my bubble hasn't burst". That sounds alot better.

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