84maroman

I've made a few posts in the past where it seems like there is always a small bunch that tends to act very offended. Earlier I talked about fictionally attempting to do 180mph on the highways at 3:30am. People were offended then. I'm not sure I understand the whole concept. Street racing is illegal, cut and dry, but most of us do it. But there is a line that certain don't cross, but others do. Illegal is illegal so I dont see what the difference in doing 120 or 180...And yes i fully understand the risks. I think we all do. And I'm sure we all know someone who has died doing what they love. No offence, but that shouldn't stop you from doing what you love...even if you could share the same fate. Life is too short to live in the past. But anyways, to the point of this post. I want your opionions of what is too fast to race on a city street/highway. I think doing over 100 on a street and over 150 on freeway is fast...IMO

redrs89

yeah,thats fast. I learned my lesson about street racing last night. I normally go to the track to race but the first night i decided to get on the gas,I spanked a honda and a 3000gt but about a mile away .......The cop said he saw me from a distance but didn't clock my speed,thank *** but he gave me a ticket for racing,so needless to say i have to take a driver ed course and pay a fine.So I just say,Take it to the track.Any street racing seems cool when ya do it but ya kick yourself in the rear when ya get caught.Sorry........just venting

Gunny Highway

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No more than 75 mph on the street and no more than 100 mph on the freeway. I think it would be rather selfish of me to only worry about me having fun and doing what I "love", and not thinking about Mrs. Smith and her 2 children who are just pulling out onto the road. Yes, I've done more than the amount stated above, but I could count the instances on one hand. When your fun crosses over into somebody else's well-being, you've gone too far. You have no right to make that kind of decision for somebody else.

Mark A Shields

I've broken the speed limit a few times by excessive speeds, and you know what, I could have killed someone.

Yes, street racing is illegal, and I've done it a few times, but nothing even close to 180mph, that's just plain dumb.

Do you realize our cars are old (assuming you have one , I didn't even check) and I know I've felt unsafe doing 100mph in mine. Just something to think about.

If you do it at 2am on an interstate maybe where there are NO cars, I could care less, but remember there are others on the road, how would you feel if some punk Civic (like they could do 180 anyways) but let's say he crashes and kills one of your close family members, how would you feel?

FyreLance

Play it safe, kids.

If you're gonna do it, prove your point and move on. 180MPH, what the.... It doesn't take but a few seconds to show who's owning who a lot of the time. And if there's traffic everywhere, it ain't worth it.

Dano 00TA

I totally agree.

85transamtpi

I street race all the time, but go to out of my way to be as safe as I can.

We always take it to an empty road or industial area, with no intersections or traffic. This is why we are out racing all night long. I never try to get a race off before 12:30am. There are too many drivers on the roads.

As far as how fast we are going...
most of our cars are fast enough to get going 110+ in the quarter (not trap speed, but final speed). Hell, there are cars racing that Ive seen trapping 120+ at the track.

I havent raced from a stoplight with traffic on the road since Ive gotten the new car. It just too fast to race with other cars around. 2nd gear isnt done till 80mph, and IMO theres no point in gunning it unless I go through at least 2 gears.

-Doug

fly351

i say, whatever you can do in a 1/4.. thats different for everyone. also, what are you saying "city" on a 2 lane road? or 4? Personally i have been doing about 5 miles an hour over and keeping it there, to many cops in my damn small town

oh, max i have hit is a 120 in my car.. and for a stock car? it scaried the living **** outta me.. i know if one little thing went wrong, hit a big pot-hole, or half a tire that flew off from a tractor-trailer, i'd be dead.

-fly

kfoley

I with Gunny Highway on this one, 75 on the street, 100 on the highway.

curt86iroc

i agree completely. 100 is fast enough for the highway. i have never gone above 100 mph in my car or 75-80 on a normal road. i mean, common sense tells you that 180 mph is just plain stupid, reckless and dangerous. would you rather say you died going 180 or lived going 100?

ps. remember, when you excessively speed, you are not only a risk to your own life, but you risk the lives of everyone else around you. lets just be safe people. i dont care how many preparationas you go through to make sure its safe, its NEVER 100% safe.....

Cam305guy

If you really want to go that fast why not get into club racing or something? I mean 180 mph is crazy fast...to put it in perspective you're traveling at 264 feet per second! I realize that doing this on a highway at 3 a.m. is safer than doing it during rush hour but think about this: a deer runs into the road (it's dark remember) 65' in front of you. This means you have 1/4 of a second to react. Now, unless you're Micheal Schumacher your reaction time probably isn't that good. Plus he has the advantage of a car that's built to handle like a dream at that kind of speed. Camaros most certainly are not, not to mention the fact that the tires wouldn't be liking it too much either. I'm not trying to preach here, just know what you're getting into when you mash the pedal through the firewall on some lonely road in the middle of the night.

Later,

Matthew

P.S. Ever see a deer come through a windsheild at 60 mph? Downright fugly-now imagine 180

Mark305TBI

Gunny Highway

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Holy Sh*t! That would be tragic if it didn't look so funny. Nobody got hurt in that did they?

Mark305TBI

I don't think so. I got the picture from a guy I work with, and I have no idea where he got it. There was a picture with the driver standing next to the car, so I know he was okay.

irocbarry

did any one read the 180 mph post it was total fiction, he even put a disclaimer before the question



but any way

75 in town is about the max
100 on a two lane highway is pushing it
and i say 125 on interstate (keep in mind that i live inmontana and we have huge unpopulated stretches of freeway with a 75 mphspeed limit )


i have exeeded the two lane highway max by alot (app. 135) but that was f'n insane

peace out

Mustang5L5

Usually i only race for 2-3 seconds before I cut out. If i nail it and smoke a car off the line i usually shut off at 40MPH. Sometimes I don't even reach the speed limit before I shut down. If i'm getting beat, why stay in it? If it's door to door i might hold longer depending on the road. But i rarely race anyway so that situation is rare.

I can't even remember the last time I broke 100MPH in the last two years...but back when I was 17-18 i pegged my car's 140MPH speedo on the way back from the track. I was an idiot back then. Nowadays, i won't go past 75MPH except at the track

camarokev400

Use your best judgment and do be stupid.......

Blackroc86

I like big speed as much as anyone but I do not think taking one of these cars up to 180mph even in the dead of night is a good idea. When I way younger I hit a deer at 150mph on my sportbike at dusk. That thing just exploded like it was hit by a large calbre weapon. With our cars I think it would come up over the hood through the windshield and you know how the rest would go.

CrazyHawaiian

I know people won't like to hear this, but for me, no speed is too fast. If the car is built to handle it (motor, tranny, suspenion, wheels, brakes, safety equipment), and I approve of the situation (road, traffic, weather, time of day, etc) then I will take the car as fast as feels safe. But you see I like to do a different type of racing than most people. Stoplight to stoplight racing is boring for me. Freeway racing is alot more fun. If any of you have ever seen the Getaway in Stockholm vids, you know what I mean. Racing from one point to another over various roads. But those guys are dumb beause they do it in highly populated areas. The only place for the type of racing I'm talking about are 3-5 lane freeways away from houses or buildings, very late at night with no traffic or people around. So far I have burried the needle in my B4C (145) my SVO (145) and my RS (115 haha). Because the cars are not built for handling that speed on turns (yet!), I only did it on straightaways. I rarely do this type of racing, and usually I race against imports (yes modded Integra GSR's can hit 140, I've seen it). I prefer to race on the track, more specifically drift on the track because it is alot safer.

FLAME ME NOW!!!

jocww

i say 60 or so on the street and 110 115 on the freeway

BikertrashDude

only as fast as your angel can fly
biker

jocww

good one biker

Mark A Shields

Stockholm vids, where do I get those?

Bird_of_Prey

whatever did _not_ happen to his front end.. i know deer jump "out of the way" (or back into the way) but, there's neigh a scratch.. and the way the hood is caved in... something HEAVY sat uptop.. and 300 lbs of deer isn't going to squich it down like that..

ok, onto the topic at hand.
in the city, or town, or any kind of rural developement.. no excessive speeds whatsoever.. nor light to light.. even at 3 am, there's people walking around (think afterparty drunks especially) or ppl like me who like the night more and wander around at those times..
in industrial places.. well.. do what you want there.. if u kill yourself, it was your own stupidity.. but i'd probably bring it up to 70 or 80 mph if the road and situation permits (and been checked out and so forth)
on the freeway, never above 110.. always a chance of a car or a tire or P.O.S. thinggy on the road... and for at dusk and beyond?.. 10 over the speed limit.. i've hit a few deers in my life (121 MPH on a snowmobile(write off) 75 mph on a snowmobile (new hood and tub), 85 mph in an Escort GT (the impact sent my car in circles on the road, driverside fender hit, no chance to take the car off of cruise)..
hey, do you want to take the chance at ****in' up your ride for a minute of fun? always depends on circumstance.. i know my car used to be able to hit the 150's... but after getting it out of my system then regretting it afterwards t'll this day... it was never worth it.
mark,
Kazaa.. or the GIS have a webpage.. there's a new one that came out not long ago.

jocww

i want the info to please

3.1EyeCandy

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I've never found it necessary to go above the speed limit in a race from a stop. Torque is king. :hail: TPI

84maroman

I am with crazy on this one...whatever your car is built to do, and situation approving, go for it. It's not for everyone. Actually is hardly for anyone. Everyone has their own personal opinions. And my passion is speed...it could be the death of me, but I could say I did enjoy my time here on earth while it lasted. And yes, I am very concered with hurting someone else, so don't asume I just go out and act reckless.

86budgetSC

It all depends on where I am at.The amount of cops that ussually patrol the area.And of course traffic.In town the speed limit is 35 all the way through town.If I race I will ussualy race till 50 and let off.Regardless of if I am door to door he is gone.

The highway is pretty much the same.Probably 100-115 is as fast as I will go.Even though every vehicle I have ever owned speedo's only go to 85mph!It is so aggravating.

skat37

i read an article on another forum a while ago about a teenage guy racing downtown after telling his mom he would go the speed limit.
well he ended up blowin a red light and smashed into a van killing two ladies one of them was around 80 years old gettin a ride from a family friend to the store. the other was his mom.
i think bout that almost everytime i am gonna race.
i usually race but it crosses my mind

Sauron91

I drive to school in rush hour traffic at 120 MPH +/-
On the way home, there's no traffic and I go 140 MPH +/-

Edit: Oops, I meant KMPH :lala: :lala:

EvilCartman

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Pick one, is it MPH or KPH?

The last street race I went to, there is a marked 1/4 mile. Well, trap speeds were 110 mph up to about 130 mph. The road is pretty safe as far as other cars not being around and no other people. You can see 4 miles one way and 3 miles the other, perfectly straight line. There are however, frogs and rabbits that go out on the road

AA89GTA

I saw on the local news a couple months ago some new penalties that California enacted. If you're caught doing anything over 100mph, the max fine is around $1000...That's not worth it to me just for a couple minutes of fun. In my city I stay very close to the speed limit cuz there are a ton of cops.

I make a concious effort to keep my speed on the highway at a max of 80mph (limit is 65). Most of the time when I am driving I don't have clear enough highway to go faster anyway (Too many damn people around here). I guess I'd probably drive faster if I lived in a rural area with open stretches of highway and if the fines weren't so ridiculous.

Also, if you're speeding through town or down the highway, playing the ol' double or triple the speed limit game and you hit someone (pedestrian, bicyclist, motorist, whatever) and kill them, you will be in a world of ****...you'll be up for voluntary manslaughter or even murder.

Going through town, I say 10mph over the speed limit is dangerous. On the freeway, anything 20mph over the limit is getting dangerous and if something bad happens it will probably be your fault. The limits are there for good reason. I like to street race too. It is tempting, but I usually shut down pretty early unless it's a mustang then I'll go until I can no longer see that POS in my rearview mirror (J/K). Just keep it safe folks. We just lost one, lets not lose another.

CrazyHawaiian

Maybe California should re-think that one ... if you're already doing 100 mph and the fine is $1000 I'm sure people would rather try to get away than just slow down and pull over. In Hawaii the law requires officers to stop chasing if the speeds reach over 100mph. Of course when this happens, they usually turn their lights off and will just follow you (illegal, but hey) hoping you dont see them and slow down or take an exit. I think its a good tactic from keeping crazy ppl from trying to run.

As far as Stockholm vids, go into any file-share type app (Kzaa, WinMX, Etc) and search for Stockholm. Lots of people have the .mpg's. I used to have the full 360 meg mpeg vid of Getaway in Stockholm #2 when the Cosworth Escort and Toyota Supra go at it. But some punk azz scratched the CD and now its gone. GONE FOREVER$@%$$@

84maroman

Yup, I love freeway racing too. All the getaway vids are cool. (getaway in stockholm 2 "cozzy vs supra", getaway in paris "ferrari", getaway in stockholm 1 (porche 911 turbo) and the getaway in where ever where the bike is running.) I would do over 130 on the freeways here in OKC. Most are long, flat, open and empty, but I don't usually speed on the streets. We all have our limits when it comes to speed. My rule is, it might seem crazy to some, but as long as your doing things safe as possible, go for it. There are people who make a living doing dangerous and "idiotic" things, but they plan it out. Yes, sometimes people get hurt, but that happens. It might seem like i am insensitive, but don't take it that way. I love life, it's precious, but I love to enjoy it as well...stay safe!

FyreLance

Haha, I have the Escort/Supra Stockholm video, it's great. Crazy, but great. How many of them are there?

Ace_Murdock

i used to drive my car fast, but i really got scared of it above 100. and the suspension was stock and on its way out.

now that i am going to start putting money into my car, i will be ever more cautious of the road. does this mean i will race, on the occasion. but i really don't want to kill someone or f*ck up my nice car.

it is hard to control these cars too, i try and find a nice speed setting to keep it at. i can get good gas mileage this way too.

i don't like high speed driving too much. i used to, but then i came up here to houghton michigan. after a couple of miles north the roads decide not to go straight anymore. going 60 through alot of these roads is seriously fast, fun and scary. there is no shoulder, and there are trees, cliffs, deer, moose, bear, and the sort right off of the road. and best of all, the roads are in curvy stretches of 20+ miles.

so all in all, i want to keep my car safe. I love it too much to risk it. and i want to make it last for a long time, i am in a restoration right now.

so do it if it is safe, or not too fast. just make smart decisions, not ones made on an addrenialin/testosterone high.

SouthernZ28er

how fast is too fast?
I dont think there is a set guideline to that question.....i think you have to take each situation as it comes and adjust the throttle accordingly

jocww

how about this. you should only go as fast as you can handle. and when your all alone in a open road go ahead and kill your self that just means one more funeral we have to go to and another person we have to mourn thats all

Gunny Highway

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That would only work in Hawaii. There's only so far someone can go when you're surrounded by water. Plus, there's not a whole lot of places to hide a car there. It's a sound principle, but only when there's no border to cross.

FyreLance

Man, I need to visit Hawaii. Must be weird being completely surrounded by water and having no borders. Sounds interesting, gotta be a lot different than the 48 .

Then again, I guess technically North America as a whole is surrounded by water... but yeah, you know what I mean.

Gunny Highway

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It's not all that it's cracked up to be. It's nice for a week and a half, after that, you just want to leave. If you've seen one tropical island, you've seen them all. I just feel sorry the people who move there on a whim, because they think it'll be cool. Then they end up being stuck there, because it cost so much money to get back.

91TPI5.7

The sad truth is we all so it. At one point in time we have that moment of stupidity where we plant he gas pedal. Unfortunetly some do it on a constant basis. My true view on it is save it for the track, were if something happens, there are at least people and paramedics there.

CrazyHawaiian

Are you sure about that?

Scenario #1: Crazy person doing 100 on the freeway and passes a cop. The cop jumps in his car and gives chase. The driver see's the cop and knows he will be fined $1000 if he stops. The state border is only 50 miles away. Can he make it?? Crazy person speeds in excess of 100 mph for 50 miles trying to make it for the border.

Scenario #2: Crazy person doing 100 on the freeway and passes a cop. The cop jumps in his car and gives chase. The driver see's the cop and knows if he keeps going 100 the cop will slow down and back off. State borders no longer matter. Crazy person speeds in excess of 100 mph for about 5 minutes and no longer see's the cop. Crazy person no longer feels threatened, slows down and says to himself 'Wow close call'

Now which do you think is more dangereous? Crazy person doing 100+ mph for 50 miles trying to reach a State border? Or Crazy person doing 100+ for 5 minutes and then slowing down becaue he no longer feels threatened? Granted both are dangereous, Scenario #1 sounds more dangereous than Scenario #2. Scenario #1 would work well in a place with no borders. Scenario #2 would work well everywhere.

If cops want to be smart about this kind of stuff, they would use technology to stop crazy people. But they prefer brute force over intelligence because they eat too many doughnuts.

As far as Hawaii goes, I was born here and I will die here. I've been to every side of the US (north, south, east, west) and even far away place (Europe, Germany, India) and I still think Hawaii is where its at. Like everything, its a personal opinion, so to each his own.

Gunny Highway

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Well, I wasn't stating a fact, just personal opinion.

Anyways, I still don't think that's sound.....it may be safer, in the immediate, but do you know how many criminals are going to get away? Seriously, that means I could go rob a bank, get in my car, get on the interstate or highway somewhere, go 100mph, and get away.

Or what about this......cop sees car at traffic light, cop runs plates, plates come up for a known felon, cop turns lights on, felon goes 100mph, cop stops chasing, felon lives another day to break laws.

CrazyHawaiian

You are correct. It must be a tough debate for lawmakers. What is worse ... the possible damage caused by high speed chases ... or the posible damage caused by people who got away at a later date.

Stormshadow GTA

to the guy who hit the deer at 150mph on a bike your not really here because if that actally happened you would be dead

@ZZKKER

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if im racing someone and they keep goin past 100, i will to, i have had my car past 150mph, and climbing before i let off, after i bought the car to see what it could do. although, it was an open highway, so i think best judjment is needed.

Ian_F

I personally have done 110 in my car and I will never do that again. I did it on a bumpy, poorly paved, one lane road with my friend passing me on the other side if the line. It was fun but looking back on it, I really shouldn't have done that. Going that fast on any road is completely unsafe.

jocww

i say faster than a speeding ticket

Blackroc86

To StormShadowGTA. I did hit a white tail deer at 150mph on a GSXR 1100. As I said in my earlier post the animal just exploded on impact. I was knocked out for a sec and came to sliding down the highway with the bike beside me. I did receive a number of injuries and the local RCMP took to calling me the ghost. So if you think it is BS that is fine. Maybe do a little research into thing before you make a call like that.