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Old Oct 29, 2002 | 12:12 PM
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87 Camaro vs 2000 Grand Am v6

Here's a little story told from the other view. I got a 2000 Grand Am with the 3.4 v6 as my winter car. Only mod is a GT Ram Air and a K&N.

My friend has a 87 Sport Coupe with what he says is an LS1 out of a 96 Vette. Now yeah, I've heard everyone tell him LS1's didnt come out til 97. So maybe its an LT1? Anyways, whatever it is, it has a carb on it. I've told him he should put the LS1 intake and FI on it, but he says its too much work, changing heads? Now I know its not a stock LG4, as he's shown me the FI wire plug sitting by his carb. That's all I can tell you about the engine. The car is auto, 4.11 rear.

We lined up and ran from 3 lights, each with the same result. We both nail it, and I jump about a car length on him while he sits and spins his tires. Once he does gain traction, we stay exactly as we are, with me about a car length ahead. I don't pull on him, he doesn't pull on me.

So of course on my way home I call his cell and tell him the GA is only rated about 170 hp.

Now he wants to race me with his 91 Mustang GT.
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Old Oct 29, 2002 | 12:16 PM
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Something sounds fishy about that sports coupe, a carbed LS1/LT1???
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Old Oct 29, 2002 | 03:22 PM
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Actually the engine wouldn't have be an LG4, if it is a sport coupe like you say, it had a 2.8 MPFI enigne in it, that all they came with no V-8 available. So since it was a MPFI car that would explain the FI wiring. So he probably swaped an LG4 into the car or something. But it's definetly not an LT1 or LS1 because those things are wicked fast and wouldn't have any problem with a 3.4 Grand Am (Trust me the GA is decent but nothing 350 TPI couldn't take).

I say he is full of on the LT1 / LS1 comment. By the way the LS1 was available in the Corvette in 1997 (first year). So he maybe telling the truth .

Later, Garrett
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Old Oct 29, 2002 | 03:42 PM
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Originally posted by CamaroFreak406
Actually the engine wouldn't have be an LG4, if it is a sport coupe like you say, it had a 2.8 MPFI enigne in it, that all they came with no V-8 available. So since it was a MPFI car that would explain the FI wiring. So he probably swaped an LG4 into the car or something.
Later, Garrett
Sorry to say, but you are wrong. Sport Coupes were available with the LG4. His VIN has the "H" to prove that his car was a factory LG4.
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Old Oct 29, 2002 | 04:20 PM
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Well Dude, I did a search on this site and the tech data says no the only engine available was a 2.8 MPFI, but the data maybe wrong. But my main point was the fact that it's probably not an LT1 or LS1 unless the guy is a crackhead and rigged something terrible, and wasted all that money for no performance.

Now back to the Mustang I think it might be rather close if he is running the AOD tranny and is bone stock. But if modded or 5 speed I think he's got you.

Later, Garrett
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Old Oct 29, 2002 | 04:33 PM
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If you can't look at the engine and tell the difference between an LG4 and LS1, Wow, I don't know what to say.

Hmm, all aluminum compared to all iron.
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Old Oct 29, 2002 | 06:19 PM
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A carbed LS1 out of a 96 vette eh?
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Old Oct 29, 2002 | 06:53 PM
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wait... if its a 87... then it might be a LT.. and that came with a V-8...but a carbed LS1? there is a carbed LT-1 back in 1970.. with 360hp in the camaro.. and came with 370hp in the vette... but.. i dont think there is a carb intake to put on an LS1... and who would take off the intake to put on a carb on a LS1... whata dumbass... if its carbed.. and its the stock lg4... its prob a LT... its a rare car.. only 744 made in 1987 only...it replaced the berlinetta i dont know how many were made with the 8... but its prob a LG4... no LS1/LT1 ever (from 96 or 97) came with a carb...
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Old Oct 29, 2002 | 07:31 PM
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This might be the dumbest thread I've read in weeks.

LS1 started in 97.
LT1 was only available with automatic Vettes in 96.
LT4 was only available with 6 speed vettes in 96.
Carb manifolds are available for the LT1, but it's NOT likely that's what's in that car.

in 87, RS camaros had a very limited production, and were available only in California. All of them came with the 2.8. In 88 they were available in California, Texas and Florida. Some of my info said that all of the 88s had a 2.8, but the White book says that the L03 was available on all models. I think this is a mistake though.

If that car is an 87 and it's got an LG4, then it's an LT, Sport Coupe or a Z28, not an RS.

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Old Oct 30, 2002 | 05:14 PM
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Ummmmmmm, LT1's have been available in Vettes since '91, stick or auto.

As for the Grand Am, my sister has a GT, runs high 15's, just FYI....
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Old Oct 30, 2002 | 05:54 PM
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vettes had the LT-1 starting 92... then the camaro followed in 93 with the new body... like in 97.. vettes got the ls1.. 98 camaro's got them
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Old Oct 30, 2002 | 06:54 PM
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Originally posted by 86SCBNJ
Ummmmmmm, LT1's have been available in Vettes since '91, stick or auto.

ummmmmmmmmm, read what Jim was saying, you could only get the LT1 in a 96 vette if it had an automatic...
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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 01:18 PM
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Originally posted by 86SCBNJ
Ummmmmmm, LT1's have been available in Vettes since '91, stick or auto.
So if the LT1's have been available in the Vette's since '91 that means you can get one stock in a 2002 right? You could get the LT1 stock in a Corvette from 1991 to 1996. However from 1997 on they where LS1 or LS6 (Z06 option )I do believe.

Later, Garrett
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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 06:57 PM
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Actually I think that the vettes got the lt1 in 92, one year before the f-bodies.

Ben
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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 10:02 PM
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Originally posted by bigals87z28
vettes had the LT-1 starting 92... then the camaro followed in 93 with the new body... like in 97.. vettes got the ls1.. 98 camaro's got them
i must not of posted this....
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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 10:31 PM
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Originally posted by bigals87z28
i must not of posted this....
I knew you posted that and I knew it was true. I just was trying to politely restate it because it had been said a couple of times that it started in 91.

Ben
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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 10:44 PM
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i know... i want flamin at u... i was flamin at others cause right after my post.. there was another 91 comment...
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