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Old Aug 1, 2003 | 11:08 AM
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i wonder with wich tire size i would get better ets.the stock 245 50 16 or the 295 50 16,they both fit the stock rim.i got the better launches with the 295s but above 60miles it seems to me the car doesnt pull as hard as with the 245s.whats your opinion.second question:a friend of mine has got a 383lingenfelter engine with accel intake,everything forged,very good heads,good cam putting out 420hp and 450lbs(he claims).what et could i expect with that engine n/a,and what would happen with an 150or so shot?wonder what you guys expect,since most of you us-guys know how stroker engined cars run.here in europe we havent that much experience.i want to be able to show my friends ls1 z28 how its done those ls1 are damned fast:hail:
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Old Aug 1, 2003 | 12:04 PM
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dude, you are trying to beat an ls1??? Why do you need a new motor. You just told us that you beat a damn viper. Yet, you cant keep up with an ls1. Ok, now I'm really starting to dought that whole crap about beating a viper. If you did lie, which I'm not saying you did, go ahead and say it, because I guarentee you get less crap coming your way if you say the truth rather then lie. Anyway, take care.
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Old Aug 1, 2003 | 12:11 PM
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What size gear do you have in your rear end, typically you would want a bigger tire for a smaller(though numerically higher) gear.And I am sure he didnt lie about the viper he didnt say the camaro beat him just that he wanted to show the guy how its done.It doesnt matter what car you have anyone will admit that Ls1's are bad. If I were you though I would get a set of slicks.
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Old Aug 1, 2003 | 01:01 PM
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heeeello acidfire01

acidfire 01 i told you all that the mentioned ls1 z28 has biiig trouble with me NATURALLY ASPIRATED in the eightmile.on nitrous i kill him with ease.he has whisper lid and borlacatback as mods 350flywheel horsepower and a progressive 80shot.if we go WITHOUT the juice its about the same till i shift in 3rd,then he kills me by 2carlenghts to the end of a quartermile.both spraying i kill him(im spraying a hole lot more juice than he with his drykit).i want to walk over him NATURALLY ASPIRATED,that was the question,man.read the postings correct before calling someone a liar,please.with the l98 without forced induction it will be almost impossible to beat an ls1.with nitrous its another story,got that?
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Old Aug 1, 2003 | 01:07 PM
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sorry i mean icedfire01,not acidfire.slicks are illegal in europe.i only have the choice between te 245s50 16 or 295s 50 16.gearing is 3.73.i think no matter wich i mount i will get the same et +-some tenhts or am i wrong?
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Old Aug 1, 2003 | 01:16 PM
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sorry to icedfire01

sorry man i meant i want to show him how its done without the juice.forgot to post the letters NA.my fault.the viper story is bare truth you can thrust me.last year i had an 86gta 305tpi with digital dash and 2.73rear.only mod was an 80shot.that car back then ran like crap even on juice,maybe low 14/very high13s,and i would admit that big time,but back then i didnt have a clue about such message boards.i post the things as they are(expect forgettin sometimes 2letters )
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Old Aug 1, 2003 | 01:16 PM
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Well, I never called you a liar. Read that in my post. That ls1 sounds pretty mean, and oh well, whatever about that viper, I dont really care anymore, but a stroker sounds cool, definatley go after it. As for the tries, I've got no clue. later

-ICEDFIRE01 (thanx for realizing it) I just notcied though that you said a 86 GTA. There is no such thing. They were only made 87-92. Hope you didnt get sh*ted out of your money with that. LEt me know if thats what you meant. And the viper thing, lets just forget about that and say HEY, WE KICK A$$< WE BOTH HAVE GTA'S!!!!!

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Old Aug 1, 2003 | 01:31 PM
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yep

sure we kick both *** as gta drivers.video coming soon.promissed.and other videos to(here are many m3bmw,porsches and...gmc typhoons!!)we were misunderstanding us in the beginning,it seems.my ex gta was licensed as an 86model,maybe it was an 87,but i dont care about that its sold.i mean in the cars licence it was declared as an 86model and it had the tpi engine,and ran like crap.but however.i mean i even dont know if my actual car is a 88 or 89.
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Old Aug 1, 2003 | 01:35 PM
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with the l98 without forced induction it will be almost impossible to beat an ls1
keep in mind, they L98 only came with Corvettes. fbodies got the "B2L" motor which was the log exhaust manifold, iron headed version of the TPI 350. a true "L98" doesnt need much to take out stock or lightly modded LS1s. i have done it time and time again without forced induction... only free mods, exhaust, and drag radials
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Old Aug 1, 2003 | 01:41 PM
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Originally posted by tpivette89
keep in mind, they L98 only came with Corvettes. fbodies got the "B2L" motor which was the log exhaust manifold, iron headed version of the TPI 350.
Pardon??!!! Um the L98 did in fact come in the Fbody cars..I happen to have one, the only difference between the Vette and the F body L98's were aluminum heads, different EGR postion and different entry for the fuel lines and the exhaust manifolds. 305 TPI LB9 ...350 TPI L98. But I am sorry the L98 was in many F body cars.
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Old Aug 1, 2003 | 01:50 PM
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l98

i think mr vettetpi89 is right,the corvettes had the better heads than the f-body cars but thats it.the tpi intake sucks compared to lt1 and ls1engines.
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Old Aug 1, 2003 | 01:56 PM
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Pardon??!!! Um the L98 did in fact come in the Fbody cars..I happen to have one
go check your option sheet. i bet you wont find "L98" anywhere, but you WILL see "B2L".

B2L is what GM called the iron head TPI 350 installed in the fbody. L98s only came in Corvettes. every RPO option list book confirms this. also, i happen to own a 350TPI 88 GTA with the B2L option... not the L98

this is a very commonly overlooked fact

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Old Aug 1, 2003 | 02:09 PM
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Well my L98 isn't in a Fbody, it's in my 85 Monte SS, but infact the L98 was my engine code, here is also the VIN check which shows both options for these cars. So it's a blood form a stone concept.


Here are the results for your query on: 1G1FP2181KL156807
Made in: United States
Manufacturer: General Motors
Make: Chevrolet
Carline Code: F-Body
Carline Series: Camaro (all models)
Body Type: 2 door coupe (hatchback)
Restraint System: Manual belts
Engine Code: 350 ci V8 B2L/L98 (1987-1992)
1 is the CHECK DIGIT
Model Year: 1989
Assembly Plant: Van Nuys
Production Sequence: 156807


If you have any problems, questions or suggestions about this program, please email webmaster@thirdgen.org.
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Old Aug 1, 2003 | 02:14 PM
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computer programs can contain false information. like i stated earlier, go check either your option sheet (if the car was purchased new) or look at the RPO code list underneath the glovebox lid. that will tell you the truth
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Old Aug 1, 2003 | 06:42 PM
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On some Firebirds and/or Camaros the RPO code did indeed say L98, someone who feels like slogging through a few thousand results on the search can back that up. It's not a hard and fast rule (no matter what anyone tries to tell you) that the "L98" RPO did not appear on Fbody build sheets.
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Old Aug 1, 2003 | 07:19 PM
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Ya my friends 90 Iroc says L98 on his RPO sheet. I can get a pic if ya need to see it, he has a digital camera.
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Old Aug 1, 2003 | 09:57 PM
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The first Corvette L98 engines in 1985 and part of 1986 used CAST-IRON heads. Aluminum heads appeared mid-way in 1986. All Corvette L98 heads were aluminum beginning in 1987.

And yes, the thirdgens with a 350 tuned port have L98 in their rpo code list. This has been discussed on this site many times.

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Old Aug 2, 2003 | 09:26 AM
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LOL!! Like I said this engine is in my 85 Monte SS not a F body, but.. I remember for a fact it did have L98 as it's engine code. No need to argue about it really, cause I know it is a fact, and not fiction.

Adrian that would be good if you could get that pic to show tpivette89 that it wasnt' just the Vettes who got the L98. But still it really doesnt' matter what anyone tells me about this, as I know what I saw,"L98" and that is all that matters. And not only that.. I know that my L98 can beat alot of Vettes hands down...


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Old Aug 2, 2003 | 02:58 PM
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every single thirdgen ive come across with a 350 TPI has had the B2L code in its option list. even my own 88 GTA has this. none of them had L98 listed anywhere

every book on the subject has had B2L as the RPO code for a 350 TPI equipped fbody. i am not calling you guys liars, but how could the L98 code exist on a 3rdgen if its not listed in the record books? if someone could provide a pic of the option sheet displaying the L98 code on a 3rdgen, id love to see it

And not only that.. I know that my L98 can beat alot of Vettes hands down...
oh boy, someone give this guy a gold star. apparently you seem to think ive got some fixation about how Vettes are better than fbodies cause of a simple RPO code. this is not the case. i own both cars (in fact waaaay more fbodies than Vettes), and am not biased towards one or the other. i am simply drawing from my own personal experiences based on things ive witnessed or read. and not only that... i know that my Vette can not only beat, but humiliate alot of Montes hands down
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Old Aug 2, 2003 | 03:01 PM
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LOL!! Dude I was only kidding. And yeah I am sure your vette would beat a Stock Monte. But mines not stock, it was just a friendly jab, don't be so critical. Here is my sig...again, and a few things are left out, so that I do not reveal all that is there.

Here is a pic of her for ya. She still needs paint, but I am going for all go, then show.



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Old Aug 2, 2003 | 03:19 PM
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Originally posted by Cruzin Kaz

Adrian that would be good if you could get that pic to show tpivette89 that it wasnt' just the Vettes who got the L98.

I am talking to Tim on Sunday I will ask him to take a pic and post it when he can.
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Old Aug 2, 2003 | 03:32 PM
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Originally posted by Hawk92z-TDZ
I am talking to Tim on Sunday I will ask him to take a pic and post it when he can.
Cool! Thanks Adrain.
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Old Aug 2, 2003 | 04:12 PM
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, it was just a friendly jab, don't be so critical
sorry, but its usually hard to tell someones intent based on words read on a computer screen. most people on the internet DO take things too seriously, i thought you may be one of those people... especially after the off topic jab about Montes beating Corvettes. but hey, if its all in good fun, than thats cool with me!
And yeah I am sure your vette would beat a Stock Monte. But mines not stock
hehe... my Vettes not stock either . the only Monte SS (stock or modded) that has beaten me was some guy i met at the track who had a LS1 dropped in it! very cool idea, and one hell of a sleeper
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Old Aug 3, 2003 | 04:13 AM
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You guys do realize that monte's were never available with 350 tpi's right? They were only available with 305's.
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Old Aug 3, 2003 | 08:42 AM
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Originally posted by tpivette89
. the only Monte SS (stock or modded) that has beaten me was some guy i met at the track who had a LS1 dropped in it! very cool idea, and one hell of a sleeper
Cool! That was probably a black one right? John Bezel's car most likely. Runs 11's N/A Awesome car too.



Originally posted by 25THRSS
You guys do realize that monte's were never available with 350 tpi's right? They were only available with 305's.

I sure do, I built this one from scratch. All by myself even.
The 83 to 88 Monte SS's never even came with a 350 for that matter, only the HO 305. My car is done under Hot Rod status here in Canada for Emission testing, and is Insured under "Silver Wheels" insurance agency for Highperformance and classic cars/trucks.

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