I believe your car runs 13.0's on slicks- your car cuts good 60 foots. I know first hand that fox bodies dont hook up on street radial tires (which is what the majority of thirdgenners run on here, which is the point i am making), and your car probably run anywhere from 13.6-13.8 on radials. Guess what, a lot of bolt on L98 cars on these boards are running mid to high 13's, and weigh significantly more than your Mustang. So come down from your power trip...

 

That's the thing... If you compare top model to top model best engine vs best engine, GT vs IROC/Z28 then street races will be VERY even stock vs stock same year vs same year with the later models of mustangs passing the z28 in 91-92 moreso than earlier years. This was argued a year or so ago if someone wants to dig up the thread. 82-92 the mustang takes it 4/10 years. Of course the LX was lighter and there were other variables as well, but the LX was a motor in a box pretty much which is exactly what you want to go fast in a straight line...

 

Nevermind...

I just let my times speak for themselves!!!

And the ones fighting me have no times to prove their ponts.

 

i havent been beat by a stock anyyear mustang. not saying it couldnt happen, but it hasnt. and ive raced alot of mustangs. i love my car for it. i find my self pulling u-turns just to chase v8 stangs. cobra's on the other hand (not '03s) give me good races. i have beat a couple, and a couple have beat me.

kinda funny..


oh and i have times..not that ima low 13 car....(yet)

-see sig. lol

 

Yeah and you have good times, but those good times are 13.99 @ 96. 96 is stock 5.0 traps (I mean BONE STOCK).

 

96 mph and it weighs how much more than a fox body?

I have a $400 camaro with a $2000 crate engine in it that runs 12.45 @ 110.29 on a 1.99 60 foot on radial tires. This is with stamped steal rocker arms, too small (650cfm) of a carb, shorty headers and full exhaust through mufflers. With tires and rocker arms I should be knocking on the door of 11 second passes with a 350 crate engine with factory casting GM heads and less than 10:1 compression.

Have you seen the latest car craft where they built up a Chevy 350, Ford 351 and a Mopar 360??? The Chevy motor made 26.3 more average horsepower and 30 more average ft lbs of torque than the Ford 351. The Ford motor made 50 less peak horsepower than the Chevrolet engine and 40 less peak horsepower than the Mopar 360 motor.

Do you want to know the best part? The 351 never made more horsepower or torque than the Chevrolet across the RPM range.

People like to drag race 5.0 mustangs because they are the equivelent of a Ford Escort with a sbf in it, not because ford motors somehow make more horsepower than other makes of engines.

 

First of all Were the ones prooving our point,, and that point is your scared to run your car on street tires because you know were right, mid to high 13's. I thought I already told you this back in your flame post, with the video. ET STREETS signifigantly lower your times!!! When a new corvettte is made, or a new camaro, they dont test the car, on drag radials or ET streets. If they did then I guess all the vette owners would go around saying how they run 12's, and the lt1 guys would go around saying they run low 13's. Sorry pal, but like you said you have a bolt on 5.0. Thats not so impressive, I have seen some BAD***** stangs but yours is not one of them. THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF Bolt-ON 5.0's there EVERYWHERE. And in the next couple weeks after I get my motor in Ill have some nice, low 12 second slips for ya without tuning, and with a bad tranny.

All IM SAYING IS, and this applies for everyone, If your going to talk BIG, then you better have a FAST CAR, especially on thirdgen.org. There are to many extremly fast cars on here to go around acting bad-*** about a 13 second car. Thats when you get into trouble.

OUT
IROCZMAN380

 

I know that the GT was faster in the early 80's for sure, and in 87, 88, but after that too close to call really. Also have to realize that a GT was still much less than a Z28 even. The comparison for a LX 5.0 is a RS 5.0, not much of a comparison there. Hands down Mustang every year.

The LX hatch vs. the GT is not that big a difference when they have same options. Only the stripper LX hatches and the notch backs maybe. A stock 87-93 GT with a 5spd is a easy 14.6 or better stock, unless the car is a lemon or the driver sucks. My friends heavy, 3400+lb GT AOD ran a 14.88@96.7 DEAD STOCK. His car was a 32,000 mile car also, so not a beat up 200,000 mile car. I dropped a whole second and gained 3 mph just going to 5spd. So imagine his car with a 5spd!

It's too hard to compare stuff now when there are not many real stock cars left and the tracks are not the same. Maybe if someone could get 2 stock cars and race at same track, same day, same driver...THEN call a winner. Otherwise it's like comparing apples to oranges. Thats just my 2 cents...

 

I ran 13.80's with my car on street tires and had less mods than he has, so I'm guessing he could get a 13.5 with his car on street tires. My best 60 was 2.07 I think before the SC. I got it down to 1.90 after the SC on nicely prepped day. I know I could have gotten a 13.5 with better tires, maybe more. Just like now, I could do better than a 12.7 on slicks or ET Streets. But I like to know how fast my car is like I drive it on the street. 100% like I run on street.... 3440+lbs, street tires, and drive the %^&* out of it!!!!:rockon:

 

How has this gone from new GT's back to fox bodies?

 

I guess noone realizes ET Streets are street tires.

I have run on street tires a while ago. The car went 13.9 on ET Streets, and a 14.2 on street tires, thats 3 tenths difference with a bad 2.20 60'. Now the car runs 13.0 on ET Streets, and with a 2.0 60' I would expect to see a 13.4-13.5, and since you guys can say your expected times, I can too.

And take my word for it, I can drive the **** out of the car....

Oh yeah since we like to list all of the bad things too, I have NO rings left in the car, and my lifters are about to collapse! So after winter, hahaha wait and see what stock heads, stock cam bolt on 5.0 will do! Hello 12.5s!!!

 

Just to clarify, when you add more power to your car,, the greater the difference et streets will make. Id say at leas .5tenths.

Yah hello 12.5's??? More like hello Nitrous.

IROCZMAN380

 

You need to come off your power trip.

 

Hahha, you are a nitrous preacher arent you.

Not only will there be no nitrous, I may do it on the stock suspension, remember I havent touched that, I have a stock Mass Air (good for at least a tenth) stock fan (soon to be electric) stock fuel pump (soon to be 155) and awaiting a rebuild. When I am in the 12s (this weekend is Etown, better track and almost 30 degrees cooler than the 13.0 run) you better believe I am gonna rub it in!

Give me till Monday, and you will have to eat all of your words!

Let me know when you run your beast (what about the car in the video), your REAL car, not the one you LIED about, loser!!!

 

You dont worry about my power trip!

 

Woo that was a fun ride wasn't it guys?