Psssst. Weather and elevation are different around the country . Not to mention some tracks just flat out have old equipment. My track here in town sometimes prints out 90.00 sec 60 fts.

 

I will try and get the slip and post it.

 

This particular thread is entirely too funny.

Hyundai's, V6's and TBI's, OH MY......

Can we stop bickering for two seconds. Hyundais aren't race cars, neither are most 3rdgens. Arguing the two is pointless.

The point about a V6 breaking into the 15's is --possible--. In stock form, most have an obvious doubt, but modded - I guess.......

Lets see some timeslips and let them do the talking.

Geez.

 

You forgot reason number 3, almost every v6 owner thinks they can drop some home depot crap under their hood and go race any car on the road. And dont get them started on the weight issue. As you have seen here SOME of them dont have a clue what their talking about.

 

Whats retarded is some people on the v6 section who think they are gonna throw a home made turbo on their v6 and go 11's!


Seriously i think the reason the v6 engine gets ragged on so much is because of the v6 owner who thinks they have a performance engine or the constant posts about "Dude i stomp it with my 275's and the car goes side ways, i have no traction man"

 

I think the problem with the V6s in thirdgens is that it's a sucky engine.

The V8s are ineffiecient too, but with 8 cylinders, 300+ cubes, things can be compensated for.

I have a car with a V6 almost 200k miles and it still goes strong. The only mods are a K&N and some 'missing' exaust components. It gets 218 hp stock.

The major differences is reverse flow cooling system, DOHC 24 valve, fully computer controlled ignition and fuel,superior internal balancing....it's not the greatest performance V6 ever built, but it sure beats the crap out of 2.8L in the thirdgens, the 3.1 is a decent motor,but still a dog.


You can get good performance from a V6 Thirdgen if you're willing to put the effort into it. The only advantage I can think of is that you won't need an engine lift. You can also keep the same transmission.

A V6 will never perform like a V8 mod for mod, but I'm sure it's good enough for some people.

 

i wouldnt mess with hondas or v6 around here they wont come out to play if they are stock and i live in a air base and plant town so most people around here have some money to put in there cars (as i dont)!!! i have a stock 350TPI so i can play but not that often!!!

 

I havn't been following this topic all that much, so I don't know WHAT is exactly going on but:
A: I don't know any V6 3rdgen owner who thinks they'll ever hit 13's
B: Most of them don't want to be faster than the MIGHTY V8 cars either
C: Mod for mod, the power percentage gained is identical (I have time slips that prove it now )
D: I don't WANT to hit 12's, If I wanna go fast I'll build a full frame car with a Rat motor and so much compression I could run diesel fuel.
V6 owners are pretty much misunderstood, there are some quick ones out there, not every 3rdgen owner posts on this site (I'd be surprised if .2 % did). There are a lot of V6 cars runnin around. And as far as spending money, I spend more on food than my car, as I imagine anyone modding a car would (Us V6 people sure do anyhow). I like my cute little motor

 

Mod for mod will not gain you the same power %'s

V8s have a TON of aftermarket performance parts, The 60* v6's have none except a few cams and some pos pacesetter headers.

I have seen a v6 owner talk about dropping a home made turbo on a 3.4 and go "11's EASY"

Take a look at some of the v6 posts sometime. Some of them are pathetic really. Every day its turbo this or "dude i raced a v8 and won"
Or how bout the pathertic thread about how the v6 guys have a total loss of traction! Even while running 275 and wider tires!
Now i've seen some cars with ALOT more tq and hp then any 60* that dont have the so called "traction problems " these v6 guys claim to have. A couple of comments i remember from that thread are " i can nail it and the tires just frie" or " the tires spin on every shift into every gear"

Or theres also the threads about needing a posi

AND as soon as someone brings up anything about a v8 on that section the v6 trolls bring up the tails about
"yeah well it'll take you an hour to do plugs"
or
"yeah well my v6 car can turn better"
or
"my v6 car gets better gas milage"


ALL of which are total
"plugs take me a very short time"

From my v6 to the v8 my car turns better now then it did before.

I used LESS gas on a long highway trip to the shore. (driving around town does use alot then the 6 did though)

I still have the magic v6 springs. My car doesnt ride high like some said nor does it bottom out like others said.

Even as we speak theres a thread about hp and tq numbers of the modded v6 in which ALMOST EVERY poster Is GUESSING numbers!

Honestly there isnt anything wrong with the 60* motor as it sits by itself. I think its SOME v6 owners and the way they act that give it a bad name.

 

You think bringing up the V8 in the V6 forum turns into a flame war....

Try bringing up the LS1 on the (LT1) engine swap board........It turns into a bloodbath with all the previous camaro engines ganging up on you like the new guy in prison.......


:lala:

 

I think some of the communication in this thread are lost in the text. Emoticons don't seem to help either. I'm sure if we could sit down and have a discussion about it, it wouldn't have taken nearly as long or as many words. I'm in the middle of swapping a Camaro dash and interior into my Firebird. Why? Not because I wnt to mix-n-match, or I desire to turn the car into a r3dneck throwback from the eighties, it's because it's a worn-out V6 car that I can use to learn how to do stuff on without fear of breaking something. Plus, it's fun. I like both of my thirdgens, but I'd rather drive the GTA any day of the week and twice on Sundays. I have hard feeling with a V6'er who claims to be going sideways after dumping his clutch at five grand or some other story - I just weep openly for the Human Race. Dual exhaust on your LB8 will not get you into the twelves, no matter how proud of your workmanship you are. After I get my interior done, I will not gain a single erg more power out of the tired old engine. Any sort of performance gain I feel is only because I will be stomping the happy pedal harder.

I have raced a V8 and won - but he wasn't trying at all, probably didn't even know it was a race. The instant I beat a V8 cr with my Firebird and he was trying - I am popping the hood the first chance I get to see who strapped a V8 into my car when I wasn't looking.

 

The whole mod for mod thing is ridiculous. No way will you gain as much mod for mod when comparing a 2.8 to a 350sbc. Not gonna happen. However, I will say one thing. When my car had the 2.8 in it, it never had a problem spinning tires. If i nailed it all the way to the floor from a dead stop, it would light 'em up every time. But wheelspin doesnt neccesarily mean powerful, and it sure doesnt mean fast.

 

Agreed. I must have a really dead 2.8, it can't even do that, unless I'm whipping it around a turn while stomping it and only at low speeds. I'm guessing the body roll causes the inward tire to lose traction for a second or two. *shrug*