I just got my new ride back from the shop. My mom gave me her 3.1 v6 Camaro for my birthday and I went all out with it (I'll have pics soon). I put in a 3.4 V6 putting out about 300 horsepower, at the wheels. Well, anyways, I was out and about over the weekend and looking for people to try out my new set up on. I come across this mustang sitting in the local Quiktrip, so I pulled in.
I ask the guy what he was up to and eventaully egged him on to race me. He had a fox-body mustang with a 5 speed and a bottle of NOS. I was a little worried, but I figured- ah, what the hay! We wait for the light at the corner to turn red and then line up. The light goes green and boom, we're off. He pulls about a car length ahead right off the bat, but by the time we're through the intersection, I had caught up. Then I shifted my B&M megashifter into second gear and pulle about 2 car lengths ahead. By the time I was in 3rd gear, I was at least 4 or 5 car lengths ahead. I coldn't believ it, I beat a 5 speed mustang with nitrous. :rockon:

 

witch is it.

I put in a 3.4 V6 putting out about 300 horsepower

or 3.1 v6 300 hp

and what are ur mods u got 120 more hp then stock and what are ur ft.lbs at know?????

 

It's a 3.4. Like I said, I just finished it. The car came with a 3.1, so I left 3.1 in my sig. I haven't taken it to the dyno or the track yet, but I almost kept up with my friends low 12 second LS1 Camaro with the 3.1 before the swap, so I know it's pretty fast. I have a 3.4 short block from a 95 Camaro; Alluminum heads, P&P'ed; Custom roller cam with 1.72:1 roller rockers; Edelbrock ported 4 bbl intake with a Speed Demon 750 carb and electric feul system. All the mods were on a stock 3.1 short block before this weekend. I know it ain't a V8, but I'd rather take the different approach and see what I can get from a naturally asperated 60 degree V6 set up.

 

just imagine all the power you would have if you applied it to a v8

 

Just imagine what will happen when I blow the doors off your 305.

 

 

another miracle v6 :lala: :lala: :lala:

 

Is this a joke?!?! How the **** to you get a carb intake on a 3.4 v6? 750 cfm for a 300 horse 3.4 is not a proper matchup even if you could. Not only that, IF you were making 300 whp, which you are not, you would not be running low 12's, (more like low 13's). Especially considering that your engine would be such a ridiculous high revver that it would be unstreetable and not have any low end torque. Maybe you could enlighten us with your magical cam specs and what heads you are using. I noticed you have an automatic, what TC are you using to give your car the ability to launch with the inevitably insanely high powerband you are running? I could go on and on and on and on with all the crap that is wrong with what your are claiming but I digress.

EDIT: Actually I will make one more point 'cause I'm not done. Let's check out our nifty hp/torque equation. Stock peak torque for a GM 3.4 is 195 ftlbs. I'll be generous and assume that your highly modded engine can hold 220 ftlbs out to an infinite RPM. Let's see how many revs we need to get the 375 crank horsepower you are claiming:

hp=trq(rpm/5252)

375hp = 220ftlbs(rpm/5252)

rpm = 8952

So... a pushrod engine that peaks out at 8952... Sounds REALLY streetable to me...

 

Ever stop to think that maybe he shut it down at the end of the intersection?

 

jegs makes aluminum intakes for 2.8s 3.1s 3.4s 3.8s its kind of cool.there like small perf rpm intakes that the big dogs use (big dogs being are v8s). they make 4brl intakes for all kinds of domestic v6s .

but 300hp maybe if u have 180ft.lbs but i think ur full of

 

ok, i'm a big camaro guy, and i want to see what i can do with a 3.4(thats why i'm putting one in). but this kinda **** just gives all the v6 guys on thirdgen.org a bad name. i'm planning on having a turbo 3.4 with completly redone internals proper cam and everything else, and i'm hoping to put 200 horse to the ground. Will it happen, most likely no.

now if you have a "magical" 3.4 naturally aspirated that makes "about" 300 horse at the wheels , share the knowledge, cus dumb sob posers like you are giving the rest of us v6ers a bad name and i seriously doubt that a guy who had to get a camaro from his "mommy" went all out on anything. hell i doubt you even do your own oil changes

 

Even at 110% volumetric effiiency, to need a 750cfm carb with a 3.4L (207cid?) you'd need to be spinning that puppy to 11,500rpm. With a stock 3.1L engine (I'll use 85% VE) you'd need to rev to about 16,250 for the 750 to be the carb you need.

 

WOW, impressive numbers... Thats a little more power than my car at the wheels. Now imagine my car on some spray (similar to the one you raced maybe, remember I have simple bolt ons) and guess what... A 300 rwhp car is a joke!

I'll call BS too... Not enough unfo and if you actually did this Im sure you would have some magazine print on your car, after all not many people can do it!

 

my friend who has an 89 gta (his board name is psyte) only uses a 600cfm on his 355

this post and all others from this guy is complete

 

Please give some more info on your car's v-6. that would be impressive if you do have 300 rwhp. I kinda doubt it, cuz that would take a serious build up and not be streetable. Need high rpms, or power adder for sure. The GTP with 8-10 psi boost has 300hp There are alot of all motor 4's, 6's running 10's so its possible, but those cars arent close to being tame enough to run on the street. Gonna have to pull the flag on this one.

 

Why won't you be able to put down 200rwhp? Shouldn't you be able to do that on like only 6 psi?

 

dude u should make 200hp to the wheels easy dam 3.4 has 180 from the factory.

 

I haven't run it on a dyno yet, so I'm just guessing at 300 horsepower, based on my experences. I had 4.3 v6 s10 before my Camaro and it was quick, but my Camaro spanks it. As for my engine, here's the exact specs on everything I can find. Heads: GMPP alluminum pocket ported and polished with Manley 1.72/1.42 custom valves. Short block: JE cutom forged 9.8:1 compression dished top pistons, forged 4340 crank and rods. Intake: gasket matched ported with a notched center (dual plane trick) Carb: Speed Demon 750 jetted down to 62's. Ignition: DIS from 98 Venture van with MSD coil packs. PROM: Custom done by local performance shop. Exhaust: custom stainless headers into 3.5 inch single exhaust with Borla adjustable catback. Sorry if it doesn't meet up to y'alls expections, I'm just doing what I can.

 

Oops, forgot cam specs : Custom done by Compcams for a roller lifter set up, 225/232 @ .050" and .492/.505" lift with 1.72:1 roller rockers.

 

Small valves (reletive to most 300 rwhp cars), 9.8:1 compression and a huge carb. No where near 300 rwhp according to commen sense! Get it on a dyno and then quote some numbers!

 

dude just dyno it i think u might get 220hp





ps.how do u post pics on the message board???

 

You've got a significantly smaller cam than I do. Other than the carb, I have a better top end than you and far more compression. I have 2.3 more liters than you. I would be really dam lucky to get 300 rwhp with my setup.

 

244hp and 246 ft-lbs according to Desktop Dyno. Thats about 200 to the wheels. Its not that accurate but it usually isn't off by 50%.

 

hahaha, o ****. sorry guys i was half asleep when i posted last

i meant i'm hoping to hit around 300 horse , after everything is all said and done. do i even think thats a realistic number? not really, but its a goal i'm working towards

i'm hoping to be able to give my buddys 89 gta a run for its money

 

heres the general setup i'm putting into my 3.4

ported intake, plenum, and heads flow tested and matched

crane hydraulic cam specs 450 in 480 ex

could get more power outta the mechanical cam with same specs, but this is also a daily driver so i want something that i don't need to adjust every 30 thousand km

hydraulic lifters

crane gold race roller rockers 1.6

cromoly pushrods

forged pistons

piston crowns & head chambers & valves thermal coated

with stock variety 3.4 injectors

pacesetter headers

doward and vortecs turbo kit (still r&d) with 6-8 psi of boost

and of course all the usual stuff when you rebuild an engine timing chain and such

i'm shooting for between 260 and 280 rwhp

if you think your 3.4 is fast go out and rent a ls-1 camaro, then come and tell us your car is faster then one

 

Isn't Pace Setter one of the lowest end brands out there? Or is that only for imports?

 

they are a lower end group, but they are the only company to make headers for the v6 camaro. so basically it may be **** but it tastes like roast beef to us

 

yea why are you still on the boards imean your just throwing out #s i say got v8 and dont go back. definatley dont speak unless you can back it up
jon

 

Click the browse button below the reply window where it says Attach File.

 

sorry it say the pic is to big .any ideal on how to make it smaller????

 

hey turd i forgot to ask how do you know if he was spraying or not i see people having bottles but theyre empty

 

first off with those mods you are no tgoing to be making 300 to the wheels.

second no way with those mods would you be able to race a low 12 second ls1 and almost keep up.

third even if lets say somehow you did make 300 hp how is a 300hp car going to keep up with a low 12 second car. hell the ls1's straight from the factor more often then not dyno at more then 300hp at the wheels stock and they only run low 13's most the time. yet your 300hp goes to run low 12's?

 

think he just gave up.instead of saying he was wrong.

 

lets post ***** it

 

 

You can try resizing it in paint and saving it as a jpg or download a freeware image editor.

 

i will give that a shot

 

hurry up alrady

 

not any good with computers ok.

 

Am I supposed to be posting this dyno in this thread? Oh well, here it is anyway. Looks like the same one.

 

well never mined.

 

but its bigger and ez to read. thanks stu

 

No, I'm not giving up, you dirty post ******. I just don't have anything to add untill I get some pics, a timeslip, or a dyno sheet. I don't think I'm wrong but I respect y'all opinions, so I'm not going to sit here and argue over crap I can't back up. Sorry if everyone you meet isn't good/cool enough for you, but I'm just doing what I can with what I have. At least have the decency to give me a chance.

 

thats one of the smartest things i have read on this mb.

 

.....Had to post on THIS one.....
Now, I happen to be one of the V6 advocates on this board, I believe they have potential. But COME ON!? Not a chance in hades dude. Assuming you have those mods on that motor (WAYYYYYY to much carb, even for most 350s). That motor can use maybo 400 CFM at 8 grand. ANYHOW, My setup is what i'd call mild, by no means close to what you aledgedly have done. I am slow. I catch enough crap from non-beleiving V8 owners, having KIDS come in here and make such grandiose claims is lame. I proved what little metal i have to Houstons F-body community, AT THE TRACK. I got burnt, but I held my own. If you can even run a second slower than a stock LS1 car (or a Mustang on Nitrous), I'll gladly come meet you. I'd like to see this miracle of Naturally aspirated engineering. AFter i see this motor, I'll run you with my mild 3.4 On a 50 shot and see how you do (because I don't even make 200 with nitrous i'd imagine).

 

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Damn, 300rwhp from a 3.4, gonna go yank both my l98 and ls1 and find me a couple of dem babies now!!

 

Yet his mommy still bought him toys....hmmm. Anyhow, the point is, it's BS, I know that much and I was born in 83 (and I know EXACTLY what's in my car ).

 

This one is obvious BS. No way around that. Look at the other car he is comparing it to, a v6 s10. If the guy ever got a v8 he would crap himself. But, the ultimate irony, is a guy who in the last 3 days lied about his dyno 3 times, and his combo at least 3 times, and even changed the signature to get rid of the BS is on here ripping on him. You have no room to talk.

 

lol, i love this guys occupation "race car driver" this my friends is an ultimate example of some 13 year old who got a hold of a computer and decided to make himself feel big.


but if by some stretch of the imagination hes telling the truth (complete bs) i will buy your motor from you.

you give me dyno slip and a timeslip and i'll come buy it off you for some damn good money