hey guys what we think, my 88 Camaro Sports Coupe 305 TBI automatice. Or my friends 73 camaro Sports Coupe 350 Carbed 4 speed Manuel(he just got lisence and is just learning how to drive stick) so what we think?

 

Both are fine automobiles. But I think you could take him.

 

i think if he even hits all of his gears in the right order he will kill u.those 73 camaros could scoot.


good luck.

 

i'm gonna say the 73...however they arent "fast"...but the have more the 200 hp and a 4spd..

 

first off what year 350 is in the 73 ?
did the engine have any work done to it?

i believe the 73 is going to give you a very hard run and probably take ya ....

 

The stock '73 350 was a decent engine. It just missed the gas crisis/hp killing of the mid 70's, so I think he's got you. Definitely race him though and practice launching. You can probably kill him off the line with a good launch if he is just learning stick. Take advantage of the poor driver and you could have a big win. Go to the track and let us know how it goes.

~Matt

 

There were three 350 engine options for the 1973 model year. One at 145hp/250Tq another at 175hp/285tq and the last at 245hp/285tq. If he has the 1srt option you should be failry even. The last 2 will most likely result in a loss for you.

 

wow...i woulda have thought they had more...

 

They also had a 114hp 307 and an 250 I6 100hp options as well.

 

but thats still not saying that this 73 camaro even has the original engine still sitting between the fenders ....odds are its not ....

 

I'll take the 73.

 

thats very true it could have a differnt motor in it now.could be a better one or crap. i say if he has the motor that it came with and its not doged out its u who should get killed of the line. those old 4sp are masters of getting the ft.lbs out of the motor and to the rear end.

 

If its stock, it won't be too hard to take it unless its a Z28. A Z28 would be much closer.

 

hey guys, the 73 is the 145hp/250Tq engine. I took a look at the engine 2day, and trust me it is the original stock engine, no mods at all. I have a feeling i can def. take him, not to be mean or anything but the engine just looks like it is about to die. But we will see what happens once we get out there and race it, i danno when the race will happen but ill keep you all up to date.

 

if its dogged out u got it. but dont let the way it looks fool u.

 

Dont be so sure. I highly doubt that the engine has made it since 73 without any modifications. More than likely it has been rebuilt since then, and that changes the whole game. Go for it, and let us know what happens.

 

did you look at the engine casting number to verify what it has ?...

and there is no way to tell if it has mods from looking at it ....

but go race and post what happens im curious.....

 

numbers 3970010 l-48

 

thats good now what is the casting in the 73 camaro??

 

but if its the weak 350 its a L65

 

very good and heres the rest....
Base 250 L-6 3.875 x 3.53 100 @ 3600 175 @ 1600 8.25:1 1V
Base 307 V-8 3.875 x 3.25 115 @ 3600 205 @ 2000 8.5:1 2V
L-65 350 V-8 4.00 x 3.48 145 @ 4000 255 @ 2400 8.5:1 2V
L-48 350 V-8 4.00 x 3.48 175 @ 4000 260 @ 2800 8.5:1 4V
Z-28 350 V-8 4.00 x 3.48 245 @ 5200 280 @ 4000 9.0:1 4V


compliments of www.nastyz28.com

 

they also have all the transmission info on there as well

 

this

is not the L-48 i have

1970 c10 L48 350 300@4800 380@3200 10.25:1 4V

 

Hah, black paint and dirty wiring harnesses can mean big profits come race time. "It's just about stock, I just did the plugs though."

 

what kind of motor do u have in ur 84 ????

 

exactly ...LMAO

just because it looks old and ratty doesnt mean it cant smoke your ***....LOL

ever hear the term sleeper...LOL

 

my l-48 back when it was in the c10(it came stock with the L48) it had about 80,000 from my dads rebuild and looked bone stock.yea i killed all kinds of cars with that sleeper


u need to race him so we can put the what ifs to rest

 

yes the engines are rated at different hp and torque every year and model makes a different also ..

a c10 sleeper?????

what kind of traction upgrades did you do to it ?

transmission?

rearend upgrade?

but yes you need to race this guy already .....LOL

 

me thinks the 73's gonna win

 

couldnt agree more

 

as u can see it has good power stock.
but i did put long tube headers into true duels with thurst glass packs.i changed it from point to hei.stock intake and a stock 850cfm q-jet monster the only q-jet i ever seen that worked like a 850 .flex fan. traction modd where tear drop rims (aluminum) with 8 1\2 inch wide road hugger gts. put gabrell air shocks on it. it ws very lightly modded but it was fast.





what else would u call a primer truck with a sweet motor.

 

well we all know what we call a primer truck anyway ....LOL...

P.O.S.

LMAO

J/K

 

thats what the people who had there butts hand to them said LMAO

 

Dont judge a book by its cover LOL

My friends dad has a 57 chevy with a 427 pushing 700hp to the ground. Besides the slicks and side pipes with primer gray paint, the car looks fairly stock.

It only has a custom fabbed cross ram intake with two big carbs sitting on top and two CHAINS holding the engine to the FRAME as support to the engine mounts, as visual indications. you would think 12's but you cant see the internals. LOL. Dirty as hell and alittle rusted in some spots but you normally wouldnt think that the engine would go 10's easy.

 

i dont usually judge a book by its cover you will get your *** handed to you sometimes because of that ..LOL

besides the slicks and side pipes and gray primer the car looks fairly stock ????

slicks and sidepipes are going to throw a big flag...LOL...especially on the street..for one its illegal...

if it has 700 hp it better be running 10's for sure....LOL

but ive never seen a c10 that looks stock except for primer and "tear drop" wheels??? that was a sleeper and would smoke ya on the street ..

ive seen quite a few c10 70-72 chevys that were lowered and had bigblocks with all kinds of mods on them that would smoke most anything around thou ....they also had some major traction mods

 

When I'm at the track, I see all kinds of car with running slicks (well, huge drag radials at the events that I attend) and they look like they'll be fast, but most of the time, they aren't even in the 13's. Then the cars that are running 13's or 12's, look al crappy and rusty. It's not till the low 12's and the 11's that the slicks starts showing up again.

 

They arent exactly slicks, there DOT approved ET streets. LOL but three groves down the center doesnt seem like they are gonna make it "better" for the street. LOL

I mean it has no big hood and rims are just muscle car rims like TT 2's. Looks decently quick but nothing like a 10 second car or better. LOL

Put real street mufflers on that thing and hide the pipes, you got a car in the restoration process. No hint of mods except big tires. But like stu said, I have seen cars that look fast but arent that quick.

 

100% stock, I had to change the carb when my stock one broke. Why you wanna race?

 

Like Mention above... If its the 245hp, then it will slaughter you. But the other ones shouldnt have issues..

 

i was just wondering if u changed to a 350 like some many other people . but hey if ur ever in nashville then let me know and we can race

 

The Z28-powered cars are about on par with L98-powered cars, generally, but maybe a little hotter.

The lesser 350s, though, are dogs. I know, cuz my 350 when it was stock, was the same kinda thing, but 180hp. It is alot slower than it was with the 305 HO engine in it.

Basically, if its stock and not a Z28, you have a chance. If its been modified, you cant say for sure unless you know whats been done, and if its a Z28, it will hand you your *** in spectacular fashion.

 

L98 has more TQ at the wheels then a 73 350 at the crank

 

hey guys, i'm loving all the feedback keep it comming. And dont worry ill def put all these what ifs to rest after this weekend cuz we gana be racein, so ill let ya all know.

 

good ...LOL

are you going to a track or out in the country some where??

if you decide to do it . do it somewhere that your not going to hurt anyone else okay ......

 

only thing that should get hert in a race is someones pride lol

 

people screw up all the time when racing especially when going light to light in town ever see a pic in the paper of two idiots racing in town and someone pulls out in front of them ?

it happens all the time ....

thats why its safer to take it to the track or atleast out in the country or a deserted area where there is noone else around to hurt if something happens ...

its not just pride that gets "HERT"...LOL...

 

Yea definitely take it to the track. I think that issue has been stressed a lot here, but still it needs to be said. Someone will definitely get hUrt.

~Matt

 

Street racing is dangerous. Driving in general is dangerous. If efforts are taken to be careful when street racing it can be less dangerous. It will still be more dangerous than on the track as trained medical professionals will most likely not be on hand but hey that's the risk you take. Everyone, regardless of how stupid, knows there is a risk of serious injury or death when racing on the street and should never risk other people's lives by racing in or around traffic even if you are a trained race driver as there is always the chance that the other guy might get scared and weave into you or someone else. If you act smart and race on deserted roads with no cross streets then you can minimize risks. People don't seem to understand this somehow. Idiocy is not limited to import drivers.

 

couldnt agree with you more.....look up about two posts thats what i said in a nutshell .....lol

and people dont understand this there was a kid in my town about 3 months ago in a thirdgen camaro that was trying to race a 4thgen firebird on a side street and he lost control and hit the firebird and caused him to hit two parked cars and a building luckily both guys were okay but their pocket books and cars arent .....now they are both looking at loosing thier liscenses for 1-5 years and possible jail time not to mention the damage because their insurance companys both dropped them and refused to pay for the damages because they were racing ...its not covered on your insurance call and ask .......

so yes its dangerous and stupid to do when you consider everything else besides your life you can loose.......