DO OR DIE...you won't get any respect being scary

 

Lets stop the name-calling and encourage him to take it to the track where slips will do the talking. No one is a fool for not wanting to race on the street. They are just smart.

 

If more people went to the track and raced legally instead of on the street, the rest of us guys wouldn't be paying huge insurance bills because of other people's stupidity... just wait til you have to pay for your own insurance, instead of mommy and daddy paying for it... then you'll wish you didn't have all the speeding tickets on your record.

 

dude, i pay my own issurance, bought my own car, and paid for all the parts i have put on it. I would be careful with what you say, cuz you might no really know if we do pay our own insurance. LOL i got a ticket for 103 in 65 but marked it down for 95 in 65 so my insurance didnt go up right away. I got to go clean for 2 years to clear my record, that wont be too hard since i dont drive hard like that in real public areas. Only on back country roads where there are no cops.


People that race on the street should only do it in the safest ways possible. In locations with plenty of room and away from public. Back roads that is. Or at night with no traffic but ONLY when the coast is clear and keep it as quiet as you can. Once you

Like i said before, this race will be over quickly so there is no need to worry about speeding or causing an accident. YOU guys will not be going all the fast. From a dig, you will take him and buy 50-60mph, you will be a couple cars ahead, SO STOP there. Nothing illegal about that, nor is it NOT safe. 50mph is slow.

Unless you both are 12 second cars or quicker, street racing is not quite the place to do it. Speeds and power will be great and accidents can happen that way. Thats why street racing favors the slower cars cuz they dont need as much room to run and speeds are so slow, that nothing is real dangerous. As long as its done in a secluded area. LOL My two cents

 

Please don't take what I said too harsh... I did not really mean to flame anyone on here, and what I said by no means applies to everyone...

Its just that I know quite a few people myself that drive their parents cars and don't pay for insurance, and they drive stupid, encourage others to drive stupid, have numerous tickets on their records or have had accidents and/or close calls... these people don't care because they don't realize what their actions end up costing either to themselves, or the others that are impacted (such as other male drivers under 25)

But like I said, I didn't mean to single out anyone in particular... sorry if I ticked anyone off.

 

no offense taken just pointing out my situation and more like me are out there and you just might not know of them.

yeah, i know a few you dont pay there own stuff either and if I didnt pay my insurance, my car would be alot better/nicer/faster than it is now. LOL

 

Street racing isn't why insurance costs so much, it's insurance fraud that deserves the blame.

 

Well, technically it is illegal, but I agree it isnt too dangerous. Unless the guy next to you loses it on the launch. Its still better to go to the track, unfortunately, some people just dont have access to them.

Stu- Insurance fraud is a big reason that insurance costs go up, generally speaking. But street racing, and stupid driving are the reasons that sports car insurance is so high. They know what people do with the cars being insured.

 

LOL, thats right. But alot of guys dont drive hard. Like lots of the vette owners who are old and dont race. They dont make 320hp for your everyday economy car. LOL Those ponies are designed to be put to use in other ways. :yes: But seriously, is a 305 or even the 350 in our cars considered sports cars today? yeah the Irocz and GTA can somewhat handle well, but their power gives them mid 14's and 15's with most 305's. Thats some stock import economy cars range, and family sedans. I dont think we should be called sports cars cuz most of the 80's generation of cars are dogs.

 

I agree fraud is certainly part of the problem with high rates, but its more because of dangerous driving, and stuff like racing. Why is it that women have lower rates? Its because statistically they are supposed to be safer drivers (which is something to be debated) and supposedly they don't race (which I would also be willing to debate, since I've been challenged to race many times by girls) Any time I've asked my insurance company why my rates were so friggin high, they've never once told me "Because we've had a lot of insurance fraud." They always tell me "You're a male under 25 and thus a high risk driver." And why am I classed as a high risk driver? Because other males under 25 race, get tickets, etc...

If you're gonna race, just try to do it safely and don't critisize people who won't race.

 

man, i see woman drivers constantly getting pulled over and they are most likely the ones that speed past you. I see it all the time when i am cruising, some car speeds past me and its always a chick driver. Kinda pisses me off.

 

No. The reason you pay more than a woman of similar age and driving record is based on statistics. The reason that insurance costs so much for everyone, is because of fraud. They won't ever say that to you because it's bad business practice to talk to the customer in an accusatory manner.

 

Fraud definately isnt the only reason.

 

well, all i know is that if i get another ticket for anything, I get 6 points on my license and that means suspension of it, and got to do drivers ed school or something. Also means insurance will boost up to 60% more than what my family pays per year. All one policy so everyone will be affected and everyone gots to drive clean for few years.

yeah, they aint happy with me and the 'maro.

 

I agree...

 

I am sure fruad maybe contribute to an extent but the type of car, and statistics based on your age group are the biggest factors. My 1998 GMC sierra has a higher blue book value (worth twice as much) than my RS yet is 90% cheaper to insure. It is also more likely to be stolen than the RS. I am not paying for fraud here. I am paying for all the idiots that get their cars crushed and taken away when they cut their friends heads off. Not one of these stories involve GMC sierra's. I won't even talk about the cost of my 95 Z. It is not hard to put 2 and 2 together here folks.

 

It's estimated that about a third of your premium is because of the abundance of fraud.

 

That makes total sense, and statistically that is probably right. But, depending on a driving record and type of car, that could be more or less. For a person with a perfect driving record, and a family sedan, it may be 40% of thier premium. A 17 year old with a bad record driving a 2001 camaro, it will probably be considerably less (due to the increase in other charges).

 

I know. The only reason I brought this up is because I tend to hear people complain about insurance rates all the time. And since I'd just call them an idiot if they were just complaining about things that were directly their fault. I thought I'd share that a lot of the reason premiums are that high doesn't have anything to do with insurance companies.

 

Alright well I raced him today.
I couldnt take his sh*t any longer. Today was a total nag-fest, all day long.

So I told him at the end of the day "ALRIGHT, fine. We will race. BUT, we will ONLY RACE on a road that leads DIRECTLY TO MY HOUSE so that I DONT HAVE TO SPEND EXTRA TIME looking for a suitable road just to prove that I can school you back to the orient".

So we found a 4 lane highway (2 lanes, each side).
You know, actually now that I think about it, we could have just used one lane. At about 25mph I was already directly in front of him and could have cut him off.
Nevertheless, at about 60mph he had to be at least 8 cars back. At about 80mph I looked back in my rearview again and saw his hazzards on. So I slowed down, pulled over, and he slowly rolled to a stop behind me. I got out and he said that he "shifted wrong" and we would have to do it again. I said you know what it doesnt matter, forget it. And went home.

Just got home.

See I told yall that NO MATTER what I do this little bast*ard is going to keep bothering me.

 

 

haha so what.. if you miss a shift and you had a chance you wouldnt be 8 car lenghts behind. you both are retarded.. just beat this kid up ha

 

8 car lengths thats it

 

Typical R I C E R excuse.

 

wow!

 

Since he got back to the race I will let it go for now.

 

I dont think we hit 80mph really. Probably just 60.
And he didnt skip a shift, you can hear his damn ***** from any distance. He just made an excuse.

Just close the thread its over.

 

Can do. Sorry others can't be more civil.