a few of my buddies, wants me to race them u all know my car,

88 Monte SS auto(beater)
VW Golf 5spd(brand new, small mods)
Civic early 90's(early civic should i say more)
Honda del sol(come on.)
70's ford pick up 3.73's and a 302-heres my only worry am i right

 

I don't know your car. I'm assuming the guy with the Civic isn't modded at all right?

 

its listed to the left
and i think he lowered it and put in a better intake

 

Right, so no real mods.

 

It depends on the conditions and mods of all the cars. Right now there is no way to tell much...

Id say you have the best chance to beat them all, but then again we dont know what the truck has, how many mods are on the Golf, or even what trim level golf it is, and if either Honda has had an engine swap, lol! Could be some 12 second cars there, could all be 17s!

 

i am not sure what the 305 G92 is...

what are some things you have done to it?

 

G92, was kinda like the performance option on TPI irocs,
better cam,
better exhaust, dual cats w/ N10 exhaust,
305's got Limited slips-3.45, 350's got limited slip 3.23

The 305 got the 350's cam and the 350 got a cam w/ a slightly larger lift.
This raised the LB9 to L98 standards, w/ 30 ft/lbs. less torque. Equal horsepower.

The LB9 also cam w/ a manual 5spd instead of the 4 spd. auto. standard on most 305's and "all" 350s(there were like 3 or 4 1LE's w/ 350's produced w/ 5spd. not avail to public or SCCA racers, if u find one w/ factory paper work its a gold mine).

Your car is running 3/4 of a second faster than my car stock.
No mods. 36,347.6miles, only changes are spark plugs, oil, oil filter, fuel filter, stereo,windshield wiper blades and tires.



Iroc and Firebird data

 

you should run all of them pretty good, but i am not sure on that 302 truck. Gonna need some specs on that. Pretty sure you will run him unless he has some serious power like 350hp or so. you are mid high 14's now.

 

i think the golf might keep up better then the ford....just my opinion


edit: nevermid, didnt relize all the mods the ford had.

 

Golf Gti is a dog, mid 15's some great drivers in low 15's

 

really? well what sorta mods does the golf have?

intake and exaust + good driver + 5spd + mid 14's maybe?

 

No, N/A mods for small motors don't hardly do crap. If it's an import, worry about it if it's got a swap, thousands of dollars poured into the motor if N/A, or if it's boosted, and of course, if you are slow, otherwise, don't lose any sleep over it.

 

The G92 LB9 also ran high 14's bone stock so unless the golf is a turbo and has some extra boost youve got them all. Now go race them and tell us if we are right.Good Luck.

 

will do, should be a couple days, the kid w/ the civic backed out. im worried about the 302, it has dual 4"piping, and 1150cfm carb,intake. Some head work, and shortie style headers.
Got the kid, Skip, to give me his specs. Pretty truck.

The Golf i was lied to about, its a 92' typical **** and the kid got it two weeks ago so im guessing stock.

How fast are 88 Monte Carlo SS350's?

 

stu if hes running high 14's (the golf) he's mine, if its mid 14's it will be close, but i think early 90's imports mostly ran 17's right.

 

there is no SS-350...they only came with 305's...so maybe mid 15's? but most likely 16's


edit: he could have swaped a 350 though

 

ok i was told 350 SS. Could be a swap.

 

So this truck has 4" exhaust, and an 1150 cfm carb? Those are both extremely overkill and are hurting it more than helping it. If those are ported stock heads (who knows what year stock heads though) then the carba dn exhaust are really killing the trucks performance. Bigger is not always better. I would also like to see the shorty headers he got to go into a 4" exhaust. Would have to be 2" primary's and those again would be extremely overkill. Id say the truck isnt much to worry about as unless the owner is leaving out a lot of info, it sounds like he has no clue how to build a motor, or support it with the right bolt on parts!

 

yeah those mods are for a car pushing 700hp+ at the wheels. LOL i doubt he is doing that without boost on a 302.

 

Stock yeah, 16s and 17s. If he's turbo then he could be running anything. My car ran a 13.89 @ 106.60 at a mile above sea level. I don't think you have to worry about him though.

 

well if its an 88 witha 350 it would have to be a swap

 

So for all you know, the SS 350 swap could be a 383

 

my freind steve had a ss monte with a 383(built).ran 11s all day .

 

you said it was a beater...judging by looks? because the ugly ones you have to watch out for.

 

Yup, this kid back in highschool has a rotted out base model monte w/ a built 383 and race suspensions. he'd pull wheels leaving school everyday

 

It really matters on how the car is built! Ifs its a stock 350 with a ****ty tranny youd win but if its a well built 350 into a good tranny and rear with sticky tires id say the monte. My Monte's got a 350 bored .30 over mild cam flycut pistons (about 8.5:1 in the 882's) Ported 882 Heads perfromer EPS manifold and a 650 holley into a built TH350 with a 2800 Stall into a Posi 3.73.Before the Tranny and stall, ported 882's and Posi 3.73's (had one tire fire 3.42's) it ran a 14.4@97.8mph with the mods added it beat: 2000 TransAm, 2003 Mustang GT , 2003 350Z , 1988 Iroc-z l98 among a few slower cars but really these cars can be dangerous we already have perfomance suspension from the factory plus the springs and shocks ive added and we are fether weights campared to 3rd and 4th gen F-bodys (3350 with a hlaf tank and no driver) so beware if its built well proceed with caution but if its a stock l69 15.XX's are common

 

Think your sig is big enough?

 

Nope lmfao

 

yeah i dont know, the kid w/ the Monte is really an idoit even on my standards. He said the car was given to him, and i know its auto. I would really have to cry if he pulls me, hes what you would call a honda boy, he wants a CRX, yeah real power there. The car is missing body panels has been in a few accidents, and has like 200,000 miles on it and he was telling us how its worth alot. I offered him 20bucks for the suspension. . There might very well be money in the motor. But i know he didn't do it. If anything was done it would have to be by his dad. Though it is strange that he would race me w/ a beater. And as for the 302 yeah its definite over kill but he calims about 360horse

 

All monte SS's from the factory where automatic. He sounds like he one thing right 88 SS's are quite rare hell all 4th Gen SS where! Heres some production numbers excludeing aero copues 1983,1984 and 1988 are the rarest years!
1983:4,714
1984:24,050
1985:35,484
1986:41,164
1987:33,199
1988:16,204
These cars in any condition are worth a pretty penny! Out of its 6 year run only 161067 SS's where made (includeing aerocopues) sorry for the history lesson lmfao

 

Geez, why would he want something so light? It'd only take a little bit of power to make it fast, like a motorcycle........

 

But who wants only "a little bit of power"? honestly. torque is fun. you should try it some time.

 

light weight and less power is fun. 12 seconds is 12 seconds no matter what car.

light weight car with that little power will still spin the tires off. thats what front wheel drive does when you got any kinda of hp.

 

ide rather have a 2600 lb. car with 200 hp then a 3500 lb. car with 300

 

what i find funny is how the WRX STI weighs as much as an Iroc and it definately has a wheelbase, body, motor and just about anything else except turbos.

 

STI = 300hp AWD
Irocz L98= 245hp RWD

Big difference. And i thought the STI was a bit lighter?

 

I had a car that weighed 2,600 lbs with me in it that was making close to 300hp at the wheels.

 

STI's weigh 3200 and change. Irocs about 3300 and change, if u rip out all the accessories and a/c etc. u can weigh as much as them. And AWD isn't always the greatest, by me they are usually the guys who get hurt first. Car spins out of control cause idoit had his foot on the gas on icy road, while smart *** with rwd, has his foot on the clutch and is steering w/ the handbrake.

 

i have an '82 celica GT weighs about 2600lbs...and makes an aswome 96 hp....

 

How are you going to run them when.....


Not to mention your mommy should still be holding the keys from you.

 

Umm one of the dumbest comments ever... We own both an AWD car, truck and a few rwd ones, if you think the AWD will wreck first in bad weather, your smoking something... AWD is MUCH better than rwd in bad weather, end of story, handbrake or not...

 

well, yeah, some people think that AWD means they wont lose control in any condition. They get over confident and end up messing up bad. It happens.

Any RWD car can be bad in the snow, especially one with some power and torque like TPI thirdgens.

But if you can drive good, snow is no problem. Me and my friend use to take his 89 GMC S15 truck (like an S10 for those who dont know LOL) out in snow storms just for fun. We had a blast!!! 2.5 liter four banger kicking the rear end out and doing donuts. All it had was studded tires. IT WAS 2WD only. Thing went pretty good in the snow, got stuck only few times but conditions were well beyond ground clearance of the truck! LOL Those were the days.

 

Not mention the fact that you couldn't bet the front end off the ground in the rain.

 

Not mention the fact that you couldn't get the front end off the ground in the rain.

 

Not mention the fact that you couldn't get the front end off the ground in the rain.

 

Haha, this website always messes up my posts. Wish I could edit them...:lala:

 

thats how you have 500+ in so little time

 

i have my keys back, gonna go to a track (hopefully) theres a quater and a small 1/8 a few miles from me, and i took the car out this weekend, the nearest police station is 20 miles from me. And they are pathetic, cars are from the 80's, about a year ago the police station got robbed. They took there clothes, there guns and everything in lockup. lol I think for a 100+square mile radius there are ten or fifteen cops. That i have seen. Plus the roads by me suck so racing is a bitch in a half.

Stick to the backroads and u can generally avoid cops. Either way
even on the roads that are 45mph miost people drive 60-70.

 

no i iknow all wheel drive and 4x4 can tackle to road way better but people w/ these drive them like they are driving in the rain in the snow and ice. When i see the guys with rwd and fwd they drive a lot slower and generally wont take the car over 20mph

 

Where do you live so I can stay off the roads in that area...

As far as AWD goes, maybe the idiots behind the wheel are the cause, but stick the same person in a RWD car and he will probably end up killing himself sooner, and if you stick the person driving cautiousely in the AWD car he will probably never crash or get stuck...