Any ideas? A buddy of mine just got a MX-6, 1993 with the V6, manual trans. He keeps mouthing off about how he could beat my car. Before I fire back, should I be worried? Its a 91RS, automatic trans (700-r4), excellent running condition, stock except for an open element, advanced timing and the ultimate TBI mods. So who's got a idea of who wuold win in a 1/4 mile. I just don't want to mouth off and then think "oh, yeah, your right", i'd rather stay quiet from the start if he has the faster vehicle.

 

i think it will be a close race. mx-6 is one of my favorite cars. 2.5 liter v6 is tiny but makes 164hp. with a stick its quick but nothing special. at 2700lbs runs high 15's or so. should be on par with TBI RS in good running condition

 

Well, he can't drive, so i'll start talking...:lala:

 

probes/mx6s arent known for their first gear, so you should definately take him off of the line. as stated earlier i would predict it would be close. if you really want to beat him maybe try some minor weight reduction. (i.e. spare, jack, back seats, wiper fluid) i noticed a difference after i took these out and the best part is that its free! good luck to you, also remember to powerbreak on ur launch (i'm sure you know just a polite reminder). update us on how things go.

 

This should be said with a frown.

 

"(i.e. spare, jack, back seats, wiper fluid)"

Wow that's seriously minor.

 

No you didn't.

 

he we go again....

 

in my opinion major weight reduction is gutting the car, carpet and sound deadening material or insulation, every seat but the driver things like that. and are you suggesting that making the car lighter doesnt help? im not saying i felt a huge difference like it was magical or anything. but i could tell, but apparently you guys were there and drove the car. im not an idiot i was just offering the guy some advice but sorry if what i felt was wrong. so let me prevent another debate happening and getting off topic, ok stu you win ur right im lying i didnt feel anything i just figured it would help my image here by saying that. so good job STU: 1 Me: 0 there good luck w/ the race man end of discussion about weight reduction.

 

:hail: :werd:

 

my firends got a trubd mx-6 this thing is quick but he beats the shyt out of it. it would take most of our cars stock vs stock. but with some mods i could take him. and he said this is the fasted mozda they made that year.. blah blah.. but i think it should be close. Good Luck with that race

 

I beat one running on 5 cylinders by a long shot. I think they are high 16 cars. You can probably take it if you got a stick.

 

so how about a 93 mx6, stick, and headers versus my 87 SC w/a 350HO?

Brandon

 

mx6 goin down if its stock....really far down.

 

lol:lala:

 

All I'm saying is that 50 pounds out of close to 3000 is nothing. I know you can feel the difference with a person, but, but your average person weighs at least 150 lbs.

 

I can when I remove my spare tire.......


Only becuase I don't feel it flopping around in the back....

:lala:

 

Let me reitterate. The time it takes to even remove the rear seats is not worth the practically infentesimal difference in performance you might gain. I'd go as far to say the same thing for the spare as well, even though it's super easy to take out.

The rule of thumb is about .10 for every 100 pounds dropped. Your times can fluctuate a whole lot more than a tenth of a second just from how you drive, so I don't really see it worth the extra effort to remove less than half of 100 pounds for something you wouldn't be able to notice in the first place.

Although, I guess it's just one of my pet peeves when people strip their cars just to race, then put all their stuff back in. Why make your car fast for the track, then run around saying that your car will run certain times, if it's not set up the way you have it for the track while you're on the street. I was always confused by that. Just the same as people asking my why I don't drive my car down to sea level to get a better time. Why? I don't drive around at sea level anyway, so I don't care what my car runs at sea level. You know?

 

Ya. It really is all the little things combined that after time adds up to be a good amound of weight lost. You can't remove any single item and expect a difference.

 

I feel sorry for you guys, your cars are boats compared to mine. My cars weighs barely 2,600 lbs with me in it.

 

Dont feel sorry for us, you are still the one driving your car.

 

I'm not driving my car, it's broked, remember?

 

Even broken I'd rather sit in Stu's than drive a stock iroc or z28.

 

I guess that would explain a lot about you then.

 

Why would anyone want to do that?

 

Exactly what I was about to post! Care to enlighten us, genius???

 

Stock Iroc and z28's SUCK. If I drove a stocker then I would let people make fun of me, call me names, laugh at my muIIet (which I of course would be sporting with my awesome IROC) I am just pointing out that Stock Irocs and Z28's are the laughing stock of anyone, it symbolizes white trash.

Good day

 

That has got to be the most ignorant statement. Can we get a moderator in here? Come on, this is getting old fast with this guy.

 

I have am in no way loyal to any brand or type of car, I am a speed junkie and I do not like the different potrayals that each model has. Corvettes are characterized as a bunch of rich bitches and Camaros the joe dirt of the trailor, RIc3rs are well they are their own breed...mustangs have the same stigma as well, if its fast, has a strong aftermarket following i'm all over it. When I get rid of this Camaro thirdgen, i will probably buy a 4th gen, just for the fact that 4th > 3rd in aftermarket and following.....if I could find an AFFORDABLE 11second honda I would drive it, but that right now is not the case.

 

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I do not feel that way PERSONALLY about 3rd gens but I do catch a lot of hell from people that think I am so country bumpkin, if you wanna report my post go ahead, but the fact still remains that is how this is how 82-92's are.

 

Heavily modded '84, with 85 tpi, 3rd gen.

 

Let me guess, you drive a Civic Si??? Possibly the ultra rare Type R???


Yeah, stock l98 cars running low to mid 14's are garbage.

 

Nope I sport a 3rd gen just like everyone else here (other than stu!) edit: Yah 14's are garbage, if you don't run a low 13 then get back to the garage and start wrenching.

 

Somtimes i dont know stu, I just have to laugh with you.

/\/3\/\/l8l3- no more needs be said.

 

As Mr.Dangerfield would say..."No respect!"

 

For a guy who doesn't like stereotypes, you sure had no problem using them in the other post I quoted. Hopefully you can sell your car to someone who'll appreciate it, since you apparently don't.

 

I see the sterotypes, I don't act on them unless someone throws me some.......

I love my 3rd gen, till it breaks down and I go to Grand National

 

Wow....just wow....

Seriously, go to the fourthgen crowd, you'll fit right in with them.

 

And we're to believe this runs low 13's. Bwahahahahaha

 

haven't taken it to the track, I did gtec it and had 11.1, but the last 11 second car I had felt like it hooked better, I'd expect 11.6

 

Problem with you guys is you don't see cars as something that can be easily replaced, you get attached to your cars like people, maybe that explains why I have had 15 cars in the last 5 years Thirdgen I have kept longer because I am having fun with this fuel injection.

 

:werd: between him and stu....what are they even doing posting??

 

ok man i took out more than 50 pounds, and this makes you more right than me but read this and feel better but sure i had other stuff in the car just trash and random crap and i totally emptied my car, the jack and spare alone weigh like 30-40 lbs. the back seat is like 10-15 lbs. i took out the wiper spray which was full weighed like 5 lbs. i took out and with getting out all of my other crap i took 100 lbs or more. i mean everyone w/ a daily driver has a lot of stuff piled in and emptying that with teh combination of the weight reduction made a difference. and it took me less than an hour. 2600 lbs. isnt that light for a 4 cylinder import my friend w/ an EG hatch and a GSR swap weighs around 2200. a third gen has double the cylinders a solid rear end, driveshaft, and its bigger and it only weighs around 400 lbs more than urs? i think thats pretty good engineering if u ask me. but of course my opinions are wrong in your eyes and the fact that im 18 surely makes u even more right. btw yeah those first gen. mx6s/probes w/ the 4 cylinder turbo can be made into some pretty crazy machines but then i guess anything can with time and money. when r u gonna race him man? and are u gonna go from both a roll and a stop? my guess is that if he was going to take you itd be from a roll... STU:2 Me:0 congrats champ

 

Details!!! You're running 11's through a '85 TPI?

 

Nearly every comment I've ever directed towards you was specifially for that purpose, you just aren't paying attention most of the time.


And for the record, I bet that right now, as is, my car could still walk a stock third gen, IROC or otherwise. Probably only once though.

 

I am heavily interested in thirdgens, but only for the EFI/prom aspect, if it was a carbed vehicle I would have sold it months ago...I mostly post questions regarding efi nowadays, but come on guys every loyal following of any car I have owned everyone thinks there model is superior to all, thirdgens are really for budget performance

 

wow man thats very encouraging to the teen crowd here, i dont care who you are 13 seconds is fast. did u stop to think that not everyone can afford to turn their car into a 13 second car and if we had a ton of money wed buy a Z06 that runs 12s or a new SS that will run a 13. plus i dunno if anyone else is like me, i love going fast but with control and maybe im a bad driver but ive only been driving for 3 years and i know i have no business driving a 13 second car every day. ive known plenty of retards that give teenagers THAT stereotype who took their car which mom and dad paid for and totalled it because of lack of control and maturity. for an adult man ur not too wise, when im older hell yeah i want to own at least a few 13 seconds and under cars but then ill have my 15 second daily driver to get me to work. think about what you type man, not everyone needs to go that fast. plus 14s arent bad either for the street.

 

You need to get laid or something. All you said was you took out your jack, spare, back seats, and wiper fluid. Then you go off on some tangent talking about how your car is filled with trash and stuff. Easy up there hoss. You completely missed the point I was making. I never said it didn't make a difference, I just don't think you felt it, based on what you originally said.

I never said anything about engineering. I was merely making the point that it's much easier to make power than it is to lose weight. I guess you were till twisted up about some other post of mine that you missinterpreted to catch that. Oh well, no skin off my back.

 

Yep, and those people don't post here, so what's your point?