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Old Dec 19, 2004 | 12:34 PM
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camaro vs mustang

will a 350 iroc or formula hang with a 88 trunk mustang with a 5.0 and a auto both are stock. if not im gonna look into a 4th gen
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Old Dec 19, 2004 | 12:48 PM
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well if both stock the l98 should walk the 5.0. so i've read and seen. but it all depends in the state of tune. but the l98 shoudl take it easly.
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Old Dec 19, 2004 | 01:05 PM
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if the 302 is a AUTO the L98 wins hands down... If the 302 is a 5 speed it should be a close one
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Old Dec 19, 2004 | 03:10 PM
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if the 302 is a AUTO the L98 wins hands down... If the 302 is a 5 speed it should be a close one
yes...
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Old Dec 19, 2004 | 03:16 PM
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damn it if the L98 had a T5 it would beat the 302 easily, stock vs stock that is.. The 350 is more beefier on TQ then a 302 but the HP is bout the same
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Old Dec 19, 2004 | 03:19 PM
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I know that back about 7-8 years ago when I had a bone stock 5spd 88 LX hatch I raced a 88 LX notch auto and it was pretty close actually. I did beat the other car, but not by much. My 88 LX was a stripper model too, no power anything, no tilt, no A/C, you name it. I also raced a stock L98 88 IROC with my LX and beat it, actually by a little more than the 88 LX auto.

My 89 LX auto was slow, but it had 2.73 gears and stuff..15.54@92 stock. It would have gotten murdered by a stock L98 for sure. It was a dog off the line. Oddly, that stock 88 LX notch auto was pretty quick off the line..much quicker than my 89 LX since it held with my 88 5spd and I can drive pretty good.

But "most" AOD 5.0s are not that quick stock. Some run in the 14's though stock, especially if they have the optional 3.27 gears like my 93 has. My friends stock 93 GT with 3.27's ran 14.88@96.
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Old Dec 19, 2004 | 03:22 PM
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I know that back about 7-8 years ago when I had a bone stock 5spd 88 LX hatch I raced a 88 LX notch auto and it was pretty close actually. I did beat the other car, but not by much. My 88 LX was a stripper model too, no power anything, no tilt, no A/C, you name it. I also raced a stock L98 88 IROC with my LX and beat it, actually by a little more than the 88 LX auto.

My 89 LX auto was slow, but it had 2.73 gears and stuff..15.54@92 stock. It would have gotten murdered by a stock L98 for sure. It was a dog off the line. Oddly, that stock 88 LX notch auto was pretty quick off the line..much quicker than my 89 LX since it held with my 88 5spd and I can drive pretty good.

But "most" AOD 5.0s are not that quick stock. Some run in the 14's though stock, especially if they have the optional 3.27 gears like my 93 has. My friends stock 93 GT with 3.27's ran 14.88@96.
but didnt the 1993 GT Mustang came with 215hp instead of the 225 hp? Im jw...
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Old Dec 19, 2004 | 03:24 PM
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but didnt the 1993 GT Mustang came with 215hp instead of the 225 hp? Im jw...
The 93 was rated at 205 actually..but they are not really any different HP wise..from what I 've seen. 92 was the last year for the forged pistons also..so 93 has the hyper's.
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Old Dec 19, 2004 | 03:26 PM
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Originally posted by CHEVY_EATER
The 93 was rated at 205 actually..but they are not really any different HP wise..from what I 've seen. 92 was the last year for the forged pistons also..so 93 has the hyper's.
This is true, also my friend Eric has a 1993 Coupe...

Stock original motor, MAF, CAI, header, X-pipe, Catback, pulleys, 3.73s, and suspension mods, car ran 12.77 @ 105 with a 1.67 60'!
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Old Dec 19, 2004 | 03:32 PM
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Originally posted by 25thmustang
This is true, also my friend Eric has a 1993 Coupe...

Stock original motor, MAF, CAI, header, X-pipe, Catback, pulleys, 3.73s, and suspension mods, car ran 12.77 @ 105 with a 1.67 60'!
Yea...I get in arguements..mostly in Mustang sites..about the 93's having less power. If it was true..than my car would never have ran in the high 13's with the few mods it had before the SC and as heavy as it is. I still kinda wish I had done more with my car before the SC. I never for below a 2.05 60ft with it NA but had traps as high as 103.1 which is pretty high for just exhaust, pulleys, and a BBK cold air. It was hard to get off the line though with only having the 3.27 gears..either too much spin or a bog. I didn't change anything and got better 60fts with the SC on the car.
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Old Dec 19, 2004 | 05:00 PM
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thanks for the info im probably gonna look for a formula 350 for sale and see how it goes. does anybody know if the formula is in the same price bracket in insurance as a RS because i had a rs before and insurance wasnt that bad. i was hopeing since the trans am is the higher model that i would get a break on the price as i did since i had a rs not a z28
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Old Dec 19, 2004 | 06:22 PM
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The Formula, GTA and Z are all going to be about the same insurance wise. The Pontiacs possibly more. Also, you may want to look for a 90-92 L98 car. They're the quicker ones.
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 01:16 AM
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thanks for the info im probably gonna look for a formula 350 for sale and see how it goes. does anybody know if the formula is in the same price bracket in insurance as a RS because i had a rs before and insurance wasnt that bad. i was hopeing since the trans am is the higher model that i would get a break on the price as i did since i had a rs not a z28
Oddly enough, the Formula 350 cars were typically more well-optioned than the Trans Ams... For instance, not all TAs have the WS6 package, while all Formula 350 cars had the WS6 package, and a good amount had all wheel disc brakes whereas many TAs did not (like mine)
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 08:32 AM
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Originally posted by DuronClocker
Oddly enough, the Formula 350 cars were typically more well-optioned than the Trans Ams... For instance, not all TAs have the WS6 package, while all Formula 350 cars had the WS6 package, and a good amount had all wheel disc brakes whereas many TAs did not (like mine)
Yea, I noticed that too actually. My uncle had a 87-88 Formula and it was a WS6 car. It also had a 90 Vette engine in it from a car that was totalled. Actually...one of my friends totalled the Vette the motor came from!
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 07:05 PM
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i can't count how many 5.slows i have bet i have seen my friends bone stock mustang with a t5 run mid 15s what a joke thats not the only mustang i have seen run like that i have watched 2002 gt's run high 15 and into the 16's they are so over rated
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 07:10 PM
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Ya, I've seen alot of bad bowties put a good beatdown on alot of so-called "hyped" 5.0's. Overrated.

Ford's new slogan - "Built for the road ahead..." beats
"Found on road dead......"

LOL.

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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 07:14 PM
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Originally posted by birdman88350
i can't count how many 5.slows i have bet i have seen my friends bone stock mustang with a t5 run mid 15s what a joke thats not the only mustang i have seen run like that i have watched 2002 gt's run high 15 and into the 16's they are so over rated
man they must be suckky drivers then
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 08:43 PM
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Originally posted by freestylzz
Ya, I've seen alot of bad bowties put a good beatdown on alot of so-called "hyped" 5.0's. Overrated.

Ford's new slogan - "Built for the road ahead..." beats
"Found on road dead......"

LOL.
How are they over-rated? I've owned my share and they are nothing but reliable cars. And I'm not easy on my cars either...
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 09:24 PM
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Ehh call them over rated, mine went 15s, with an auto, 2.73 gears and at some decent elevation!

Anyone running 15s or 16s in a new GT is a bad driver, end of story, they are low 14 high 13 second cars.

I like having my over rated car, people think it will run 13s at best... hehehe!
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 09:38 PM
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Originally posted by CHEVY_EATER
How are they over-rated? I've owned my share and they are nothing but reliable cars. And I'm not easy on my cars either...
Nahh I was just throwing a jab in there. I've got 2 Ford Topaz' ('93 GS 2.3 5 spd & '92 GS 3.0 5spd) I've been driving as **** kickers over the last 5 years and they've never let me down. The 3 liter is a kick to drive too. Believe it or not I've got an '89 5.0 auto LX with 34,000 miles (all original) that's been sitting in my garage for the last 10 years

But I think we're going off topic here.....
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 09:44 PM
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Originally posted by freestylzz
Nahh I was just throwing a jab in there. I've got 2 Ford Topaz' ('93 GS 2.3 5 spd & '92 GS 3.0 5spd) I've been driving as **** kickers over the last 5 years and they've never let me down. The 3 liter is a kick to drive too. Believe it or not I've got an '89 5.0 auto LX with 34,000 miles (all original) that's been sitting in my garage for the last 10 years

But I think we're going off topic here.....
Those Topaz/Tempo are pretty quick with the 3.0 actually. What color LX? notch or hatch?
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 09:46 PM
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Originally posted by 25thmustang
Ehh call them over rated, mine went 15s, with an auto, 2.73 gears and at some decent elevation!

Anyone running 15s or 16s in a new GT is a bad driver, end of story, they are low 14 high 13 second cars.

I like having my over rated car, people think it will run 13s at best... hehehe!
Brian..check this guys site out.. www.mustangdirect.com The gray GT is all stock motor even manifolds I believe...
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 10:26 PM
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Originally posted by CHEVY_EATER
Those Topaz/Tempo are pretty quick with the 3.0 actually. What color LX? notch or hatch?
:rockon: and the 3.0 is a blast
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 11:01 PM
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:rockon: and the 3.0 is a blast
So why is it just sitting there?
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 11:19 PM
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yeah... why is it sitting there?
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 12:41 AM
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Originally posted by CHEVY_EATER
Brian..check this guys site out.. www.mustangdirect.com The gray GT is all stock motor even manifolds I believe...
Actually a friend of mine has a very similar car. Stock motor, exhaust, pulleys and even STOCK GEARS, and the car ran 12.8 @ 108 on DRs. The car is light as can be but extremely fast!
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 08:27 AM
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Actually a friend of mine has a very similar car. Stock motor, exhaust, pulleys and even STOCK GEARS, and the car ran 12.8 @ 108 on DRs. The car is light as can be but extremely fast!
The 99 up GT's are pretty impressive with the right mods and stuff..lot of people don't realize that. Best time I've seen stock was a 13.9 myself but have heard of guys getting 13.7's.
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 08:28 AM
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yeah... why is it sitting there?
He should donate it to one of us...and he could free up alot of space in his garage....
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 09:09 AM
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"He should donate it to one of us...and he could free up alot of space in his garage...."

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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 08:43 PM
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are you talking about the gray gt that looks like a cobra and has the light bike tires on the front my friend has a 2002 gt with flowmasters and a cold air intake that thing can't touch my car
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 08:51 PM
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ok now for the truth i have both a 88 5.o a 88 trans am and a 2003 mustang gt now when u say stock i mean mufflers maybe a filter and it is slower than my l98 so i think thats the answer your looking for
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 09:19 PM
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He should donate it to one of us...and he could free up alot of space in his garage....
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Old Dec 24, 2004 | 02:07 AM
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Ill take it, and 12s are a must, stock motor!!!
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Old Dec 24, 2004 | 07:25 AM
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I raced the GT in the pic earlier this year at the strip, he ran a 14.14 at 98 mph I think. My car was running 13.50's at 101-103 that night.

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Old Dec 24, 2004 | 12:12 PM
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I raced the GT in the pic earlier this year at the strip, he ran a 14.14 at 98 mph I think. My car was running 13.50's at 101-103 that night.
Isnt that track pretty crappy as well, like higher elevation and such?
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Old Dec 24, 2004 | 04:28 PM
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Old Dec 25, 2004 | 12:27 AM
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Isnt that track pretty crappy as well, like higher elevation and such?
It's at 490 feet but temps can get 100+ in the summer. That day it was 97 cooling to about 75 by the time we packed up and left. Redding dragstrip is crappy compared to Sacramento's strip but I like it because it's not as busy and full of the 4 bangers buzzing down the track (some still there but not bad). Everyone is always faster at Sacramento which is only at 90 feet and is a better prepared track.
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Old Dec 29, 2004 | 10:07 AM
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camaro vs mustang

I think I have seen this post before.........

For the original ? I think the race would be close only if it was a 5 speed. Alot of it has to do with how well you can drive your car.
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Old Dec 30, 2004 | 10:04 PM
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ok now for the truth i have both a 88 5.o a 88 trans am and a 2003 mustang gt now when u say stock i mean mufflers maybe a filter and it is slower than my l98 so i think thats the answer your looking for
You must suck at driving then


I ran 13.9 in my 2003GT bone stock. I don't think a 'stock' L98 would match that these days

Oh and all those Mustangs you see at the track running 15's and 16's are what we like to call ****ty drivers. I've had bad runs and missed shifts in my GT and still managed 14.4-14.6's. I always got a chuckle while at the track when other guys with stock 99+ GT's came up to me and asked me why i was running almost a full second faster.

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