my budy has a 5.0 stang with a blown intake gasket and is gettin it fixed now that he saw my car painted, he wants to run, and i want to run him in the spring.

he has a 80's 5.0 with heads fuel injection bigger throttle body an home made cold air intake its a auto, and he has 3:73 gears out back. He says mid 13 in it he thinks.

I have a 87 iroc, built vette 350, so alum heads, 1/16 longer pushrods and roller lifters, energizer cam, 490/510 i think if i can remember right, ram air gap intake and a 750 holley, fired up with a accel distributor and msd 6Al ignition at 6000RPM, also have a 3500 stall with a shift kit and a 3 inch aluminum driveshaft, but still stuck with those damn 3:23 out back...i need 4:11's, when we run its gonna have some new snypers and some meaty mx khumos on the back of it, so hookup should be fine with that tire and the converter, i donno if im going to have the gears done by then.

so who do you think will win this one, not real important since we are boys and we hang out all da time but you know, ford vs chevy.

 

What exactly does he have for engine work and tranny? You say heads but what kind and what else? Stock AOD or a built AOD or C4. Alot of varaibles. I'd say you would take him but it all depends on his mods really. He could run in the 13's with a stock motor if he has gears, converter, etc. So he "should" be in the 12's pretty easy if he has heads and stuff. But it is hard telling. I used to beat alot of 5.0's with heads and stuff and I had a dead stock motor.

 

i think they are the usual trickflow garbage for fords, intake from trickflow and home made cold air, stock aod and gears out back, and enhaust, no headers...

i got that motor, edelbrock headers and a 3 inch flowmaster system, everything is good, but my gears are killin me...so what ya think.

 

Well, his combo seems kinda mis-matched if he has h/c/i and stock headers still! Otherwise the usual TFS combo makes pretty stout power. I would have to say he could run 13's. If he had full ehxaust and the car running right with gears, converter, etc..it could run mid 12's easily.

 

he would be lucky to get a low 14 with a set up like that

 

The Mustang or the Camaro? My old 89 LX with just a catback and 4.10 gears ran a 14.54 and it had the dead stock junk AOD in the car and 135,000+ miles. My other friends 93 GT ran a 14.66@96 with just pulleys and cold air. So if he has heads, cam, intake, and all that stuff..he better be in the 13's. I was in the 13's with just exhaust and pulleys!

 

so who do you think, i never ran my combo at the track, but what ya think

 

He was probably talking about the mustang, he was talking down on them in another thread the other day. YOu know how it is, those who dont know, hate.

 

I would have to agree with birdman with this.... In all my experiences at the dragstrip I have yet to find a mustang with "gears, heads, and exhaust" that ran below a 13.7
(13.7 was a new Mach 1 [5 speed] with mods) all others run 14s.

I would not be afraid to race your car as is against his because with your setup you should have a definite advantage with low end torque and although the lower value gear will limit your mechanical advantage and 60 foot times, it will allow you to stick.

Chevy eater appears to be watching to many movies.....

 

If you have never seen a fox body with heads, exhaust, and gears run below a 13.7, then you havent spent that much time at the drag strip anyway.

 

..double post

 

HAHAHA, this cracks me up, afterall what you claim to have NEVER seen I have done MUCH faster with MUCH less...



I guess what I did in my daily driver, everyday street car is something no Mustangs out there do... I love the misinformed, cracks me up.

As far as the outcome, I think your probably going to take him. His biggest hurdle is the crap auto. Unless its an AOD with a converter, shift kit or manual valve body, it is going to be a dog. Especially losing all that low end from the TFS kit (mine lost low end with the auto with just a MAF). I say race, have fun and take the win, let him mod more and go for it again!

 

i am, soon as nice spring hits in, maybe ill do my gears n the winter and not tell him...lol but yeah, were good friends so we are gonna race, more then once too..but yeah...get it done.

 

Its fun racing with friends, with no hard feelings in the end, and a good time for all!!! No matter who wins...

 

i had a friend with a 88 mustang with a 347 stroker the hole works on the thing heads cam cobra intake tremec 5 speed lt's 3'73 gears with slicks he was in to the 12's i have drove them raced them and worked on them a stock mustang is a joke plan and simple

 

so have i and your right but, they respond to mods very well! and unlike alot of thirdgens they have many aftermarket parts that work well togeather. I have seen so many thirdgens that have parts so miss matched they are no better than stock.

 

I OWN ONE with a ton less going faster...

Get that through your head

Remember I have the keys to it, drive it all the time, work on it, put gas in the tank, I OWN what your telling me they dont do! I am starting to love the amount of smart people out there...

Tell your friend to sell the car to me, Ill put it deep in the 11s...

 

A stock Mustang is a joke...but there are a ton of them in the 12's with dead stock motors. If your buddy only ran 12's with a 347 he has some issues. I have a 3500lb GT with all options, A/C, 100% stock motor, stock gears, street tires, and just a small SC and exhaust. I run 12.7's at over 110mph on street tires. I was running 13.8's with just exhaust and pulleys, all else 100% stock. One of my friends was running 11.56@119 with a home built 306, h/c/i carbed, 4.30's, and the "works". All motor too.

 

Your "buddy" must be the biggest tool in the world. That or you are a liar.

 

get a clue "plan and simple".....LMAO

 

boy i wish i could run my car at these magical tracks some of you guys do i guess my car would run in the 9s then loosers

 

ok how many times do i have to say this i have both why do u guys keep saying im running 12s at track with a slighty moddded stang blah blahg blah!!! get real ok yes stangs do take to mods very well but stock running a 13,65 OOOOOKKKKKK in ur dreams and with a professinal driver tweaking and tuning for a magazine running it a hundred times takeing the best times on a 2003 gt only running a 14.4 check road and track and everyother mag out there now if ur soooo good at running em come run me in pa at any track of ur chossing put up ur title and give me the car so i can run it in to the ground u know stickers and decals dont make a car faster and neither does lying bout the drag times so get real wake up and wipe the sleepys out of ur eyes

 

oh 1 more thing show me the engine and the details on tape run it at track same day and show me the vid and maybe ill halfway respect the fact that ur an idoit

 

 

i would put my money on the stang

 

Here is a road test from Motor Trend, since you are quoting the mags.

http://motortrend.com/roadtests/coup...912_mustanggt/

14.0@100.2 with a stock 99 GT which is the same as a 2003.

 

Werd. Man this section of the forums is over run with youth, ignorance, and plain stupidity.

 

Yep. You an say that again. Looks aside, mustangs were a much better performance vehicle than our thirdgens. End of story. I like my thirdgen though, and wont get rid of it.

What gets me are these 16 year old punk kids in here calling people idiots, when they are the ones that are wrong. Its kind of funny. We should all just let birdman and his "bitchin" TPI say what he wants, cause he is the one that looks like an assclown everytime he is around people that know what they are talking about.

Back on topic, I will take the stang.

 

Yep. You an say that again. Looks aside, mustangs were a much better performance vehicle than our thirdgens. End of story. I like my thirdgen though, and wont get rid of it.

nah i disagree with you.. The Camaro always outhandle the Mustang, and the L98 and the 5.0 T5 were both in the same league

 

 

I have videos and posted them here a long time ago of my 13.0 pass with a bolt on motor and got BS called, I also have some 12.6s and 12.7s on video, Ill gladly share, but knowing this site it will get locked or removed before I ever get a video on here!

Ill run you for pink slips, gladly, take your car home and sell it, put that into my suspension and run low 12s still with a near stock motor!

I run in NJ, feel free to stop by, Ill be there ALL next year in my 89 LX, or my brothers 2005 GT. Ill take your car in either!

Why is there such ignorance and stupidity in the world today. You dont know anything about Mustangs obviousely (if your talking MT times) so dont post about them, plain and simple...

Also about Mustangs performing better, Id say no. Stock for stock at a drag strip L98s and stick shifted Mustangs were good races, in any turns the Mustang gets killed, but mod for mod the Mustang will walk away! Thats how it goes...

 

Also about Mustangs performing better, Id say no. Stock for stock at a drag strip L98s and stick shifted Mustangs were good races, in any turns the Mustang gets killed, but mod for mod the Mustang will walk away! Thats how it goes...


:werd: Im talking bout stock tho, cuz he mentioned back in the day. Hell yea the mustang has 10x better aftermarket then the camaro, i deff agree with ya. But rem you still can get a L98 to hit 12s, just not as many as 5.0s. thats all

 

You guys need to get over it. With your attitudes you are going to get your *** handed to you on a regular basis by those "rustangs".

 

hey i killed a 5.0 Mustang in my dads L98 Also i dont think there "Rustangs" Maybe awhile back i used call them that, but not anymore.. There awesome cars esp the 5.0s. They have there pros and cons just like Camaros and Firebirds do

 

I dont mind the Rustang comment, like all cars they rust. Mine has had some (most of its gone now, lol) but has also been ungaraged from 1989 until 2000 or so, and driven all winter here in New England. In that situation any cars going to have some rust! And rust isnt always permenant!

I just wish people would sit back and learn about the cars instead of saying...

"well my brothers, sisters, dog ran 13s with a supercharged 347 Mustang, they are junk"

Thats ignorance and stupidity speaking, not experience and knowledge! I know what they can and do do at the track, I race a HEADS UP MUSTANG racing league. Actually compete in 2 and watch 3-4 all the time. I go to maybe 6-8 heads up events a year with hundreds of Mustangs, driven by anything from 16 year old guys, to 70 year old women! I think I know a little more than some kid who went to the track 3 times or has a friend with one!

 

I dont mind the Rustang comment, like all cars they rust

correct me if im wrong, but you wont find fiberglass corvette ever rusting Cuz i herd the fiberglass bodies dont rust

 

I would just like to ask again for birdman and I's sake where are these magical tracks you junkstang lovers race at?

 

Im a junkstang lover, and race at Etown, Lebanon valley Dragway and New England Dragway!!!

As a matter of fact I made it into one of the top Mustang mags, for my 2nd place finish at one of their national level events! I ran 12.9-13.0s on street radials in their Street Stang class, and the event is called Fun Ford Weekend...

If you like go to their site and look for my name under the NH FFW event! I bet you find it, along with some of the times I ran!

 

Is this a site devoted to the 3rd gen or what?? Seems like talk about lately.

 

The only way I could see a mustang running in the 12s is on nitrous, super or turbo.... No matter what all these mustang drag gods are advertising. And if these mustangs are so fast why dont you make a trip up to where the air is a little bit thinner. I will take my chances running against your outrageous mustangs... and we will see if your times are not humbling..... Would anyone like to?

 

Com on guys, Mustangs are just as good as Camaros are. Hell they put the Fbody outa of business PERIOD. I believe in Brian, 5.0s are known for mods. I think Brian has some vids floating around, even IM him and he'll prob show you the vids and slips, plus he was in Magazines B4. Theres all proof there. I myself was thinkin of buyin a Fox body, as long as American V8 I mean Mustang/ camaro guys shouldnt argue with each other, we should help and support each other, Its pretty much american muscle VS Imports

 

gotta give the 5.0 motor its credit. it performs well to mods and it can be proven. just spend some time on the internet browsing mustang sites or whatnot. Spend time at the track. you will see that mustangs are not quite the dog that everyone thinks they are


dont worry, the camaro is due back in 2007 or 2008. LOL:hail:


fox body stang and L98 vette is better comparison of L98 vs. 5.0L. you can see the L98 is more powerful engine do to extra inches as vette and fox body wiegh roughly the same, and the vette is bit quicker.

start adding intake mods and exhaust/gears/ other stuff. stock internals/heads/cam. vette l98's have been know to hit low low 13's with stock TPI i believe. 12's usually need fully aftermarket TPI and a cam. but, stangs have hit 12's with few intake mods and exhaust/gears. I found that hard to believe but its true. check out some sites on the net for all you stang haterz. LOL you will see that those motors have potential for being a 302.

 

isnt the 302 really good cuz its bore/ stroke? i

 

Here is an idea, why dont you go out and research and read up on this topic, before you post something like this and make yourself look stupid.

Just because you dont like the car doesnt mean it isnt faster than yours, it probably is.

 

this is all i have to say..

 

YOUR STILL RETARDED

 

first off don't know why you are getting up tight
no need to do that.

second as far as mag times

lets see
I have seen a 02 maro run 13.5 as a best time
some state the ss as 14.0

the z06 was stated as running 13.0 in some mags
yet there have been reported 11.99 times in the z06

mag times aren't the greatest factor of what a car can run
learn that
it comes in handy

 

I need to do more research.... Experience is the best teacher and all my experiences have showed with N/A engines there is no competitor with chevy period. You can always argue that TPI this Ford bolt ons that BS but when you come down to it they just can not produce as much power and it shows at the track.

The bottom line Ford has never produced a better engine platform better than GM and never will... If you want to compare hp numbers on N/A combos Ford just comes up short.

I mean I think this is chevyeaters setup http://www.cardomain.com/id/fiveltrdave
but if you will notice it is supercharged, with this these times are very believable but not by any means impressive.

So do all the research you want on the mustangs then meet me at the dragstrip... We will talk then.

 

I was running high 13's and trapped as high as 103.1 before the SC with nothing other than exhaust, pulleys, and cold air. All else 100% stock and the car weighs 3500lbs as you can see it is fully loaded plus the system. I also have traction issues, before and after the SC. With slicks I could have easily ran mid 13's or better before the SC sicne I could only get 2.0-2.2 60fts.

My time is not that great at all really for being SC'ed but I trapped 111mph which shows I have the power but can't get it all to the ground. That and the fact I have the stock gears still that keep me from even getting max boost in the 1/4. Remember..I have stock everything from the TB down to the oil pan also. Take a stock L98 and put a small SC with 7lbs of boost and stock gears and everything I'm sure it will not be much better either....if as fast as mine is.

 

Would any of the mustang junkies care to race in the spring?
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US41......

If so reply to this post or send me a personal message. Then maybe after the racing this mustang hoopla will stop in the thirdgen forum. Until then junkstang lovers just talk your ****.
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